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Micro-Dosing / Started microdosing. Questions and advice sought
« Last post by OdysseyIII on July 05, 2018, 02:20:32 PM »
Started my first root bark micro dose this week. Monday-150mg, Tues 250mg, Wed 300mg, Thursday 300mg. I'm not sure whether to keep going. Not much of a mood lift yet. First three days was even MORE depression and anxiety than when I started. Alcohol urges are less insistent. (I'm not drinking, but still feel the "pull". Kind of like, "the rest of the band is doing a shot, you should do one too!") Still can't put down my stupid e-cig habit. Sleep has been fine until last night). Haven't had any breakthroughs. Started getting mild 'tracers' last night, not uncomfortable.

I'm a little unclear on the protocol. Some say small amounts daily for a week to a month. Some say 1 day on, 2 days off. Or one week on, one week off. Which is right? Do you take a break when you start getting visual effects or when you can't sleep? What other supplements/herbs is it safe to take for sleep and anxiety? (I have CBD oil, but it's only mildly effective and won't get me to sleep.) Thanks. 

(If you didn't see my other post, I"m microdosing for depression, anhedonia and anxiety. NOT for addiction treatment.) 

Thanks to everyone
General Discussion / Any experienced sitters in the USA?
« Last post by skinny on July 02, 2018, 06:03:54 PM »
I'm still looking for experienced sitters in the USA.  I only know one guy who home base is in Miami Beach which is pretty close to me, but he charges $3500 just for the treatment but hase 15 year experience.  Anyone still do this, or at least would like to pm someone and get their phone #, I'm looking now to get RB and make TA an out of it and convince an friend who never done it to treat him first and then me.  I don't know if he's the right person, but I'm thinking to give him 1 gr of TA.  Looking for this month.

Micro-Dosing / Re: Questions about other meds before microdosing
« Last post by RhythmSpring on June 30, 2018, 10:49:38 AM »
It sounds like you should be fine. I personally am against using xanax during a flood, more for spiritual reasons than safety reasons. 24hrs before should be fine, just don't take something else while iboga is in your system. And remember, once you take iboga it is IN your system for a LONG time. We're talking 4-8 weeks, because it gets converted into noribogaine which stays in your system for about that long.
Eboka Talk / Re: Iboga and therapy
« Last post by andreas1717 on June 29, 2018, 11:40:27 PM »
I did the ceremony in a group with a trained provider. IMO that is the only way to go. Iboga takes you places and you have to have someone who knows where to guide you. Otherwise, you may not get the full benefit or could possibly do more harm than good (speculation).

Micro-Dosing / Re: Questions about other meds before microdosing
« Last post by OdysseyIII on June 29, 2018, 02:49:56 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  I TRY not to be TOO stupid with my meds.  Having quit cymbalta, ambien and adderall for the last six days, I think I can say they weren't really doing much for me, merely habits.  I was hoping to take the first micro dose (around 100mg, RB powder) next Monday.  By then I will have been off those for a week and a half (if you read my above posts, those three were very small amounts to begin with)
 I won't have kratom or kava the day OF microdosing, but from a purely safety concern, would it be ok to have a small amount of kratom (like 3g plain leaf)  the morning BEFORE?  (Sundays are difficult without it.) 7-hydroxy-mitragynine half-life is only 2-3 hours.  The online  information is confusing. For example, some sites recommend having a small supply of xanax on hand during a flood dose. Or that kava can help after the initial dose has worn off. This conflicts with others that say you need to be off everything for weeks before and after.   

I have a sitter (kind of). My girlfriend is an LPC and has been doing lots of research on how to be a "guide", even if it is just microdosing. She's incredibly supportive and is both invested and curious about the process. 
Micro-Dosing / Re: Questions about other meds before microdosing
« Last post by RhythmSpring on June 29, 2018, 10:52:46 AM »
Thank you for clarifying on the nature of your substance use. I know it isn't easy to be frank about it. I take back my wording of "physically addicted."

I wouldn't worry about having "zero spirituality." In some sense, iboga isn't even spiritual. It can be very practical. It can offer insight that is very direct, matter-of-fact, no frills, etc. And it may not even seem like it's coming from an outside source. Indeed, it is you who will (hopefully) do the realizing, or perhaps the un-learning of patterns that got you into this mess in the first place.

In my not-so-humble internet-stranger's opinion, you do not NEED to get an EKG or liver panel test before you microdose, especially if your physical body is pretty much healthy.

Most of the iboga/ibogaine deaths/complications come from people accidentally or stupidly mixing other substances with iboga. "Whoops, I did a line of cocaine while on iboga!" "Whoops, I couldn't deal with the emotional pain on iboga so I went for my "trusty" opioids!" That'll kill you.

That's one of the reasons why, if you want to go deep with iboga, you need a sitter present to prevent those things from happening and/or give moral support.

Good luck, and have fun!!
Eboka Talk / Re: Iboga and therapy
« Last post by skinny on June 29, 2018, 10:24:58 AM »
 I was curious if you did it and I buy the ceremony by yourself with a sitter or did you go to a clinic? I would like to find a sitter ;)
Eboka Talk / Re: Iboga and therapy
« Last post by andreas1717 on June 29, 2018, 01:45:36 AM »
Hey Bluetiger!

Thanks for your response! I agree on going with my gut (of course that is always the way to go). About a month after the flood dose, I realized therapy was just a vital need for me. Id never spoken to anyone about my problems (crazy i know) so Iboga showed me that how this was a basic human need. So I think i need some therapy in this way, just an outlet to express my human emotions.. not necessarily a way to "solve a problem".

You are so right when you say heart health, that is exactly what it comes down to in my sessions! Ive been working on speaking from my heart in a safe environment, which helps me do so more in everyday life. In this way I think therapy is great. A funny observation is that I find myself wanting my therapist to contribute her thoughts and feelings. Iboga showed me the importance of community and sharing and i think this means a two way conversation when it comes to feelings. It feels slightly strange me just pouring my feelings on to her.

Thanks for the inspiring words! You are right, if we feel something isn't serving us anymore, its time to move on!

Micro-Dosing / Re: Questions about other meds before microdosing
« Last post by OdysseyIII on June 29, 2018, 12:19:28 AM »
Thanks for hearing me out, y'all!

I was planning to start at 100mg for the first dose and see how I respond before increasing.

No, I'm not physically addicted to any one substance. I think I have an addictive mindset, convincing myself I can't sleep without valerian, melatonin and ambien.
And that I can't be social without a few drinks or phenibut or VERY rarely, a little white line.
And that I can't have sex without tongkat ali and sildenifil.
And that I can't release anxiety without a drink or kava.
And that I can't feel anything other than sadness without kratom, even if it's only for a few hours.   

To summarize, I just don't care anymore. About anything; parenting, sex, music, beauty, nature, vacations, food. The only reason I'm still around is because my tween daughter needs her dad. I won't give up. I'm hoping the iboga can help me correct all that. Seems like I've tried everything else, SSRIs, SNRIs, tricyclics, MAOIs, antipsychotics, benzos, CBD, lots of herbs, nootropics, etc (I've been at this a LONG time.)  I even had THREE series of ketamine infusions and got nothing out of them other than a few hours of legalized tripping.

None of my current "tools" have a very long half-life. Am I missing something about metabolization? ("Damn it, Jim! I'm a musician, not a doctor!") The half life of adderall (not XR) is ~10 hours and the last dose I took five days ago was only 7.5mg. I never took more than 30mg a day, which was rare, and always split in two.  This last week, I get sleepy mid-morning and late afternoon without it. Can't use caffeine because it causes more anxiety.
I guess my wording on the kava and kratom was a bit dramatic; I don't NEED them to function, it's just that without them I'm even more of a depressed and/or anxious mess. I've convinced myself that I can't get by without them.  (Sometimes I think I'm more addicted to the morning and afternoon process of toss n washing than I am to the chemicals themselves.) I'm only taking 8-10g of kratom a day (six days a week), MUCH lower than the folks on the r/quittingkratom subreddit. 

Also, I have ZERO spirituality so I'm worried that iboga won't work for me if I don't understand the sacredness of the plant. At least that's what I've read on a lot of iboga sites.

Other than all that, I'm pretty healthy. I go to the gym, get regular blood labs and checkups, I don't eat sugar or grains, drink plenty of water.  I don't have a reason for taking care of my body, mind you (well, maybe vanity), it's just another habit.

Thanks again for listening.

Micro-Dosing / Re: Questions about other meds before microdosing
« Last post by RhythmSpring on June 28, 2018, 10:12:32 PM »
So yeah, BlueTiger and I are on the same page. Quit Kava and Kratom well before introducing iboga.

And do your research on the half-lives of your other meds.
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