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Eboka Talk / Re: Iboga and therapy
« Last post by searcher on August 02, 2018, 07:58:47 PM »
I did the ceremony in a group with a trained provider. IMO that is the only way to go. Iboga takes you places and you have to have someone who knows where to guide you. Otherwise, you may not get the full benefit or could possibly do more harm than good (speculation).
Really? imho it is only important that someone is looking after you because of possible medical issues. But at the end there is only you and the experience, nothing else is needed.
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Eboka Talk / Re: Ibogaine community
« Last post by searcher on August 02, 2018, 07:57:14 PM »
Thx for this! I am happy that I dont need a FB account for reading only. Great!
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Hello guys,

I took 2 times eboka but got no visions or anything like that - only some strange and speedy thoughts. No color vision or daydreams or anything like that :(

First time I took eboka root bark and vomit after 1 or 2 hours. Second time (months afterwards) I took eboka TA and vomit again after 1 or 2 hours. Dosage was approx. 20mg/kg.

So I think it was because I vomit too early, right? When I take it again (a last try) I only want to use HCL.

Is it possible that there are people which cannot be reseted by eboka?
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Introductions / Re: Iboga for 90G Kratom addiction.
« Last post by ayystevennx on July 15, 2018, 08:30:48 AM »
So i ended up doing 1 gram of the hcl with 1 gram of the TA.. Definitely wasn't enough. I figured since Heroin/Fentanyl had a shorter half life than Kratom i would just take that for 2-3 days without Kratom, then withdrawal for a day, then do the Iboga.. Pretty sure that was beyond stupid! I read that at 49 hours all of Kratom would be outta your system so i should've manned up and dealt with the horrible withdrawals for two days without the other crappy drugs in my system. Also Michelle said two days would be fine since Kratom works different . So i put the HCL and TA in a cup of water and drank it.. THAT WAS A MISTAKE! I haven't had anything to eat for almost two days.. Also i should've put it all in capsules! I managed to keep it down for almost an hour but then puked.. I definitely felt the ataxia, it was sooo hard to walk and speak! Before i threw up i saw a tunnel with a lion in it but that's it.. Maybe i threw up to early? Or maybe there was to many things stuck to my receptors? I feel so awful, i wasted a sacred plant.. But i had an inexperienced sitter and i was withdrawaling pretty badly so i wasn't doing anything right! I just wanted to feel better.. I wont make the same mistake again !

I have great news though! I'm down to 28 grams of kratom leaf a day, and i've been off Gralise (ER Gabapentin) for over a month! I also have 5 grams of the TA now and plan on taking 3-3.5 grams once i tapered down to a very low dose of kratom, then i'll withdrawal for two days then take the flood dose. I'll make sure to have an educated sitter, eat a healthy meal the day before, and drink enough water. All i'm on is Kratom and i take Etizolam 1-2mg 3 times a week..

BlueTiger: I heard withdrawaling from extracts are more intense! Alot of these extracts have been tested in labs, and some of them were found to contain opiate RCS like desomorphine and o desmethyltramadol o.o Since i'm on plain leaf maybe iboga will work better for me?
 
Kratom behaves as an opioid receptor agonist btw. Mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine bind as partial agonists to the mu opioid receptors and antagonistic to the kappa and delta opioid receptors. They have high binding affinities to the mu and kappa receptors. The binding affinity to the delta receptors is high for 7-hydroxymitragynine. But weak for Mitragynine. Kratom also presents affinity for the k-opioid, norepinephrine, and serotonin receptor systems where it functions as a agonist . It's alkaloids rhynchopylline mitraphylline function as NMDA receptor antagonists..

If someone could add more info it would be greatly appreciated! I want to be free of this shit! I know i have to put in the work after the iboga and i GLADLY WILL. I'll do whatever it takes to stay clean..
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Micro-Dosing / Re: Started microdosing. Questions and advice sought
« Last post by BlueTiger on July 07, 2018, 05:38:54 PM »
You are not really supposed to mix Iboga with anything.  I have almost no experience with MDing, just floods.  Hopefully someone else can give you more insight. 

If you are not sleeping, I would dial back, skip a day, because we detox between 9pm - 11pm more than any interval, but it only happens if we are asleep.  Eventually, enough nights with lack of restful sleep will leave you further imbalanced. 

Be flexible, listen to your intuition, skip doses/days, reduce doses, smile, and breathe.   
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Micro-Dosing / Re: Started microdosing. Questions and advice sought
« Last post by Justbe on July 06, 2018, 06:57:44 PM »
Hey
Iam not an expert at all but I think you should try higher doses if you don’t feel much. Good luck
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Micro-Dosing / Started microdosing. Questions and advice sought
« Last post by OdysseyIII on July 05, 2018, 02:20:32 PM »
Started my first root bark micro dose this week. Monday-150mg, Tues 250mg, Wed 300mg, Thursday 300mg. I'm not sure whether to keep going. Not much of a mood lift yet. First three days was even MORE depression and anxiety than when I started. Alcohol urges are less insistent. (I'm not drinking, but still feel the "pull". Kind of like, "the rest of the band is doing a shot, you should do one too!") Still can't put down my stupid e-cig habit. Sleep has been fine until last night). Haven't had any breakthroughs. Started getting mild 'tracers' last night, not uncomfortable.

I'm a little unclear on the protocol. Some say small amounts daily for a week to a month. Some say 1 day on, 2 days off. Or one week on, one week off. Which is right? Do you take a break when you start getting visual effects or when you can't sleep? What other supplements/herbs is it safe to take for sleep and anxiety? (I have CBD oil, but it's only mildly effective and won't get me to sleep.) Thanks. 

(If you didn't see my other post, I"m microdosing for depression, anhedonia and anxiety. NOT for addiction treatment.) 

Thanks to everyone
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General Discussion / Any experienced sitters in the USA?
« Last post by skinny on July 02, 2018, 06:03:54 PM »
I'm still looking for experienced sitters in the USA.  I only know one guy who home base is in Miami Beach which is pretty close to me, but he charges $3500 just for the treatment but hase 15 year experience.  Anyone still do this, or at least would like to pm someone and get their phone #, I'm looking now to get RB and make TA an out of it and convince an friend who never done it to treat him first and then me.  I don't know if he's the right person, but I'm thinking to give him 1 gr of TA.  Looking for this month.

skinny
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Micro-Dosing / Re: Questions about other meds before microdosing
« Last post by RhythmSpring on June 30, 2018, 10:49:38 AM »
It sounds like you should be fine. I personally am against using xanax during a flood, more for spiritual reasons than safety reasons. 24hrs before should be fine, just don't take something else while iboga is in your system. And remember, once you take iboga it is IN your system for a LONG time. We're talking 4-8 weeks, because it gets converted into noribogaine which stays in your system for about that long.
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Eboka Talk / Re: Iboga and therapy
« Last post by andreas1717 on June 29, 2018, 11:40:27 PM »
I did the ceremony in a group with a trained provider. IMO that is the only way to go. Iboga takes you places and you have to have someone who knows where to guide you. Otherwise, you may not get the full benefit or could possibly do more harm than good (speculation).

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