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Title: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Iboga Panacea on September 11, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
I posted this on the nexus and thought it would be proper to post here...

I'm very happy to say that after searching for months now I've finally come into contact with someone that has proven with numerous pictures that he is a viable source of farmed Iboga coming out of SW Cameroon. I trust this person and have been in contact with him for about a month now asking him very particular questions and getting very transparent and satisfactory answers. Although I have come in contact with several others saying they farm their own Iboga they could not provide the adequate proof, but this guy came through. He will be willing to share his pictures with anyone that needs them.

Here he is (his name is Ndialos)...
voacangaafricana@gmail.com

***Also people that have asked me for seeds, I can't follow through anymore it become a serious stressful burden to fulfill this task. I was overly optimistic. If needed on request if this fellow does not satisfy your needs I can provide additional contacts, but I can not guarantee that they farm their Iboga.
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: GratefulDad on September 12, 2012, 10:33:33 AM
Have you tried his bark?  If so, how is it, and what kind of prices does he have?  Say for 50 g, 100 g, 500 g, and 1000 g?  I may e interested in purchasing some more bark soon, so if you recommend him, I'd possibly give him a try.  I'd like more bark and some pure HCl, too, if extracts are available, although I doubt it..
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Iboga Panacea on September 12, 2012, 12:55:10 PM
I can't publicize the RB price he gave me as I do a lot of haggling w/Cameroonians to get the price @ a standard and affordable level.  I get a certain price from a main guy and say I will pay no more to the rest.  Then they always cave in as they are paying very little or farming what they have.  When you say no they say yes.

He showed me a heap of clearly original pictures of everything pods, plants, root bark, seeds and farm.  The whole of it.  Absolutely no way IMHO that he could scam all those beautiful photos.  He is also sincere and professional something that is often lacking I find.  He's got it all is really what it comes down to, but the very important thing is his (Ndialos) work and product is sustainable.  So we don't have to feel guilty (excuse me rho and Tata Yo) for purchasing his RB.

I hope people support him, enough of the poaching of Gabon.
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Knownothing on September 27, 2012, 09:04:59 PM
I just wanted to give you credit for the work you put in here kambogahuasca, if/when i order i will try this guy first.
And i hope anyone who orders from him will post here about quality and other details.
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Nostradamus on October 20, 2012, 12:56:54 PM
Hi everyone!
I'm new to these boards, and would like to say that this is one of the best out there. The amount of knowledge is incredible and the sourcing is a GREAT help! I don't want to go on-and-on as it isn't my intention to hijack this thread.
So, I'll get down to the subject at hand; I ordered from the email listed, all went well with the initial exchanges of info and pictures. The guy does have quite a few convincing pictures, and I even had him write my name and addy on a peice of paper so he could take some pictures with my info to put me more at rest.
After doing the dance with him I decided to Western Union him the loot (yesterday). After sending him the details for him to collect his money(today) I haven't heard from the guy. I'm hoping that there is a good reason for his absence, and lack of response to 3 of my emails; hopefully he's just busy and will get back to me sometime today.
I guess I'll keep everyone posted as to what transpires with this guy.
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Nostradamus on October 20, 2012, 05:39:03 PM
Just an update, I did hear back from the guy. He claims he hasn't picked up my payment and the postal services are closed on Saturdays in Cameroon. I guess I'll look foward to an email on Monday saying everything is okay, hopefully. Of course I'll keep everyone posted.
I just wanted to say something about my earlier post. Although it may have been premature to jump to conclusions, I figured I would post JUST in case someone else was planning on ordering; I figured I could act as the sacrificial lamb, if things went badly. I hate to sound like a cynic, but, I've ordered from 2 people who have burned me already.
I'll check back once I hear more.
Thx.
 8)
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Iboga Panacea on October 22, 2012, 05:08:52 AM
Let me know if and when I should go on full frontal verbal assault on his ass.  Peacefully of course.  But I will make it known to him that his name will forever be tarnished from all forums and he can count his business dead. 

But if he's like most Cameroonians he's just procrastinating up the yin yang and needs a swift kick. 
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Nostradamus on October 24, 2012, 03:18:37 PM
Kambogahuasca, thx for backing me up.  :)
I can't say it enough, this board has some of the kindest and most sincere people I have ever had the privilege to be exposed to; I think many of other boards can learn a great deal from here.

As far as an update, I received an email yesterday from Ndialos stating that he had shipped out my package; he provided a tracking number and left it at that. I agree 100% that Ndialos is a gentleman and displays a great deal of professionalism, and in this day-and-age that is something that is sorely lacking. His English is easily understandable and he does follow this forum and in particular this thread; today I had an email from Ndialos, with a hyper-link to this thread. His interest and behaviour all point out that this man is probably who he and everyone else is saying he is. Ultimately, the final deciding factor that would solidify everything, will happen if I get my product. And, for that, everyone will have to wait for me to post that information.

As soon as I receive or hear anything related to my package I'll post.

Once again, Thx!
:)
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Iboga Panacea on October 25, 2012, 09:32:50 AM
Wanna say thanks to you Nostradamus.  You may be a newcomer here but your obviously some kind of a forerunner (as your name indicates). 

If all goes well with your permission I can officially post on other forums where to get the first known source of farmed Iboga in the world.  No reason to have a monopoly on this one as Iboga's survival is at stake and the more we support Ndialos the more he can plant and develop his farm.

I'm very grateful to you, please keep us up to date (package arrival, quality, ext.).
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Jox on October 28, 2012, 11:09:17 PM
Hi all,

once I got burned by internet shopping, I lost my $ and hope.

Why don't we pull the fund and test the new providers. This way we will all share the emotional and $ loss.  The only problem is that we are globaly spread, but we may work it out?

what you guys think?

Jox
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Phantastica on October 31, 2012, 06:22:45 PM
I placed an order with him a little over a month ago. it was 110g for $150+$16(money transfer fee).
the placed order has still not arrived, and he has stopped responding to my emails. he didn't provide me with a tracking number despite asking for it 3 times. i asked for a refund, but again, no response.
He seemed quite a legitimate source while i was chatting with him over emails. However, i don't know if he ever sent my package or not. it might have been seized by the customs if he did mail it, or got lost in the mail, but i'm not sure.
im still awaiting his response..
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Jox on November 12, 2012, 05:47:29 PM
Hey all,

so he is a scam? No news?

Jox
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Iboga Panacea on November 13, 2012, 10:05:43 PM
I will need to know as well.  I have plans on writing him and alerting him about our reports that could make or break his rep.  So any input will help.  I lack much time for PM's and such so making it more public would help us all I think. 
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: roy d on November 14, 2012, 12:27:47 PM
Hi Guys and Gals,

You guys talk about being ripped off for bark, please tell us who so we are not ripped off.  When a person does not answer their mail they are no good as far as I am concerned.  I am sure you know this but whenever they want a Western Union don't go for it.  There is one guy on the net who wants only cash and I have done business with him several times for spores and he is on the up and up.  With a Visa Card you have a chance and a hassle but with WU there is no recourse.

Please name the piece of poop to stop others from getting ripped off.  If he runs his mouth tell him to come to Deetroit (not a typeo) and I will put my foot up his ass.  Now if ever you do this be sure to use a Large condom for when the EMS came they had to take us both to the hospital to get my foot out of his ass.  It was kind of embarrassing and I had to throw my shoes away and cut my pants off below the knee and I call them as I see it I looked funny walking down the street barefoot with my pants cut above the knee and there was snow on the ground.  But looking back it was worth it.

Best,

  Roy
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Phantastica on November 19, 2012, 04:53:26 PM
still haven't received anything. its been ~2months now. he said that the package was mailed a long time ago. i have  a feeling that he may be telling the truth; but one thing is for sure - he doesn't intend on giving me my money back. any requests for refund that i have made, went ignored and unanswered.
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Iboga Panacea on November 19, 2012, 04:59:07 PM
Did he provide a tracking number?
If no: He's a scammer!

If he's not willing to refund and it got confiscated:
He's a scammer!

Ndialos!  If your reading the verdict is out.  I apologize to anyone and everyone for thinking this guy was legit because of the many pictures he provided me.  I hate doing business with Africans.  Sorry if that sounds racist or whatever but experience is as experience does. 
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: roy d on November 19, 2012, 05:52:35 PM

Best thing to do is let others know who the rip offs are so we can buy elsewhere.  Just my opinion

Roy
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Jox on November 19, 2012, 10:06:32 PM
Phantastica,

I am so sorry about this negative experience. I wonder what can be done so more people don't get burned this way.

xJox
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Calaquendi on November 22, 2012, 10:27:27 AM
CAVEAT EMPTOR

Beware, just because a vendor is from Africa does not mean they even KNOW what eboka is....Westerners would do good to remember this. It's like people from overseas making generalizations about Americans, you just cannot lump things together.

Particularly South Africa- There MAY be someone cultivating there, but iboga is not indiginous to that country, only three countries in the equatorial region of that continent can boast natural Tabernanthe iboga growth: Cameroon, Gabon, and Congo.

Anywhere else it is cultivated or imported. Be careful - and watch for W.U. Roy said to be careful and I agree - but not everyone who uses moneygram or W.U is a scammer - sometimes they want to fly under the radar or maybe they have a one-time thing, who knows? In this kind of affair, just try to be patient and remember if it sounds too good to be true, it damned sure probably is.

At least we have places like this who can red flag those out to burn people - start small, do a test run with a new vendor or better yet- ask for samples if you plan on making a large purchase. These schemers know they can keep your dosh and there ain't a damned thing you can do about it.

Also - keep overt details on a PM basis if there might seem to be a risk to this board's integrity - we walk a fine line here people - we cannot and do not openly sanction illegal enterprise and once more for the record, Eboka has no affiliations with any of these entities., so everyone is on their own. This is why I am not exciited about people just popping up here - advertising - and then disappearing.

Your risks are your own, period....if you have a bad time - by all means share it here so we can know the names, but remember this place is for everyone, for all of us - so try to keep in the front of your minds/discussions some basic tenants of discretion... Peace
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: DiamondHeart on December 02, 2012, 09:21:28 PM
Could someone PM me info on where good quality RB can be obtained other than buying from IW? We seem to be striking out on the sources mentioned in this thread.

Thanks
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: mongopod on June 01, 2013, 11:26:37 PM
please pay attention with blaise ndiales ngake voacangaafricana@gmail.com
he surely is a scammer. I made some smaller orders from him, first two small ones of about 300 iboga seeds to check if i can trust him and then the next order i placed with bigger amount was a real scam. He collected several 100€ via westernunion and immediately after he had received the money, he never answered any mails again and didnt even ship anything. So i hope for all you guys paying a bit more attention by not  making any business with him. First order will maybe work but as soon as it is a bigger amount he'll never get in contact with you again but just keeping the money completely for himself. If you'er looking for a much cheaper alternative which can be trusted then simply contact me, or reply here and I'll immeciately give you some contact information for a serious company.

regards
Steffen
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: lbark on June 02, 2013, 02:19:44 AM
I also ordered recently from Blaise.
It was supposed to be shipped out yetsterday.
I hope they come, and if you reading this...yes you, you should come and state your case.
I hope they come.
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Iboga Panacea on June 02, 2013, 08:37:05 AM
Ndialos is a scammer.  My apologies for ever believing his BS, he was very convincing with all his explanations and pictures.  If ever you question if someone is a scammer if they don't respond to your emails, write from a different account asking for a big order.  Cameroonians are usually scammers. 

These guys are not scammers...

http://www.riverssourcebotanicals.com/products/product-details/Tabernanthe+iboga-527
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: lbark on June 02, 2013, 01:48:08 PM
Ndialos is a scammer.  My apologies for ever believing his BS, he was very convincing with all his explanations and pictures.  If ever you question if someone is a scammer if they don't respond to your emails, write from a different account asking for a big order.  Cameroonians are usually scammers. 

These guys are not scammers...

http://www.riverssourcebotanicals.com/products/product-details/Tabernanthe+iboga-527

No problem man, live and learn. He was convincing. I hope he comes clean and starts doing better business. I can never understand how someone so close to the medicine disrespect and use it like that.
I will be ordering from RSB thanks for the heads up brother.
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: lbark on June 24, 2013, 06:15:12 PM
Hey guys.
I wanted to update that my s33ds came in today.
I have not seen them, my girlfriend picked them up for the post office though.
It seems Blaise/Ndalios is looking to make good and appreciate him coming through.
I am going to upload some photos.

Question- I had some dried seeds come, and also pods.
My girlfriend said the fruit was getting to the point where it was rotting a bit, so she opened it a bit.
Please give me any advice to make sure the seeds will stay good.
Shall I put them in the fridge, or try and relay directions to her so she can start sprouting them right away?
I will be able to work with the seeds myself in 2 weeks, but don't want to risk them not sprouting by waiting longer than needed.

I am super happy!
I hope they are viable.

Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: roach on June 24, 2013, 07:12:04 PM
The seeds will be fine for many months. Just remove them from the fruit. I will PM you my phone # if you want tips on growing them.

-roach
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: drosphilia on September 21, 2013, 10:44:26 PM
I'm still waiting for my Tracking Number from ---->  voacangaafricana@gmail.com

For a while he wasn't responding to my Messages and I was concerned.

After messaging him a few more times and posting a comment about him being a thief he replied..

I will keep everyone updated on if he is legitimate supplier of T. iboga and V. africana.

As for now I'm not sure if he is going to fill my order totaling 265 Euros. 

Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: drosphilia on October 02, 2013, 12:02:13 PM
Yesterday I received my shipment.

It was Marked as Voacanga africana Root Barks in Two Places on the Envelope Exterior.
Any good Seller/ Provider would mark it as Natural/ Herbal Medicine.
There is NO Reason that Anyone in the Post Office needs to know the Genus and Species name of the Herbal medicine!!!

I contacted the Sender and he said that he sent the Iboga seperate and the same day.

It has been Confiscated by CUSTOMS because he Labeled it as IBOGA ROOT BARK....

I will Never Trust this Seller to Provide Stealth Shipping.....

I'M VERY UNHAPPY WITH COMMUNICATION, SERVICE AND STEALTH SHIPPING......  >:(

NEVER BUY FROM ------>  voacangaafricana@gmail.com    >:(

Now, I'm now waiting for a Police Raid or other Law Enforcement Issue.     >:(

BEWARE OF: BLAISE NDIALE NGAKE
PO BOX 28 BUEA
South West Region, Cameroon
Tel: 237 77 9624 27
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: skinny on October 02, 2013, 12:30:31 PM
I saw an episode of Dan Rather Reports where Jamaican con artists have scams to target the americans.  It's been a while since I heard about that one, but my family was a target from a relative that got suckered into the Nigerian scam 10 years ago.  I guess it's other countries out there doing similar things to get the white man's money.  Its kinda tragic that Africa has been a target of imperialism and many people over there see it as a way of getting back and don't see it as an ethical problem.

It's hard to tell the situation in Gabon and Cameroon, I don't know what to trust out there.  My approach would be to pay premium for a reliable vendor rather than some guy who says he has a good deal on bark.

Then a few months ago there was a case of tainted bark that was passed around and shared, I don't know if it was discussed on this forum.  But a few people got sick, it could have been a bacterial poisoning like salmonella or something. 

Still I have not heard any grow places outside of Africa that sells bark, has pictures of plantations, harvesting, etc.

skinny
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: drosphilia on October 02, 2013, 12:45:37 PM
I hear ya, Skinny.

I was given one Tracking Number and I had to get mad to get it from him.

Now he tells me there was two packages and He supposedly sent it the same day...

I'm very upset with the whole experience. I was planning on being a regular customer and was hoping to find a reliable source.

It would have been worth the risk if he would have been legitimate. Now I have to concern that he was Malicious in Labeling the Package as a (Unreasonably) Controlled Substance by genus and species name...
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: Iboga Panacea on October 02, 2013, 05:15:55 PM
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But a few people got sick, it could have been a bacterial poisoning like salmonella or something.


That was discussed he goes by De Horizons on Facebook but his real name is Emmanuel Lii.  I knew of someone from the Netherlands that got this funky batch that it seems some others got here.  I've learned to be very discerning and also it was my mistake to originally post this thread.  I apologize for that.  I no longer say anything about vendors other than to one friend in the Netherlands that continues to help me and I help her.  In this field of Iboga you need some real strong friends otherwise you are bound to get burned. 

In some ways I am into Iboga healing but I am very outside of it as well because of how dark I view it's taint.  I just do my own thing and function outside the realms of the injured and spiritually disabled former addicts and the Africans that are taking advantage of Western greed and need. 
Title: Re: Source for Sustainable Iboga Pods/Seeds/Root Bark
Post by: celestial on October 18, 2016, 06:41:24 PM
You cant aymore even trust famous vendors like IW, maya.....

Just imagine than these so called private ones, one very popular guy called s.james send my friend garbage, 1st layer of root

My friend, me and couisin all got sick, cousin even got some seizures

It would be good that people write without fear their reviews of private or public vendors

Thinking about these new iboga.shop in uk, havent tried but these days quality variets with all them you dont know what are you getting

because of big demand and shortage of good stuff, but all private guys lies even public, they dont own farmd, they are all just resellers from local farmers

They get quality what they pay, bigger quality higher alkaloid contect, private buy garbage left from farmers and sell as "potent stuff"

Again one doctor from S.Africa which own clinic there and make also his own extract told me that nobody from face or here guys dont own faarm

All truth