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Micro-Dosing / Started microdosing. Questions and advice sought
« on: July 05, 2018, 02:20:32 PM »
Started my first root bark micro dose this week. Monday-150mg, Tues 250mg, Wed 300mg, Thursday 300mg. I'm not sure whether to keep going. Not much of a mood lift yet. First three days was even MORE depression and anxiety than when I started. Alcohol urges are less insistent. (I'm not drinking, but still feel the "pull". Kind of like, "the rest of the band is doing a shot, you should do one too!") Still can't put down my stupid e-cig habit. Sleep has been fine until last night). Haven't had any breakthroughs. Started getting mild 'tracers' last night, not uncomfortable.

I'm a little unclear on the protocol. Some say small amounts daily for a week to a month. Some say 1 day on, 2 days off. Or one week on, one week off. Which is right? Do you take a break when you start getting visual effects or when you can't sleep? What other supplements/herbs is it safe to take for sleep and anxiety? (I have CBD oil, but it's only mildly effective and won't get me to sleep.) Thanks. 

(If you didn't see my other post, I"m microdosing for depression, anhedonia and anxiety. NOT for addiction treatment.) 

Thanks to everyone

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Micro-Dosing / Re: Questions about other meds before microdosing
« on: June 29, 2018, 02:49:56 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  I TRY not to be TOO stupid with my meds.  Having quit cymbalta, ambien and adderall for the last six days, I think I can say they weren't really doing much for me, merely habits.  I was hoping to take the first micro dose (around 100mg, RB powder) next Monday.  By then I will have been off those for a week and a half (if you read my above posts, those three were very small amounts to begin with)
 I won't have kratom or kava the day OF microdosing, but from a purely safety concern, would it be ok to have a small amount of kratom (like 3g plain leaf)  the morning BEFORE?  (Sundays are difficult without it.) 7-hydroxy-mitragynine half-life is only 2-3 hours.  The online  information is confusing. For example, some sites recommend having a small supply of xanax on hand during a flood dose. Or that kava can help after the initial dose has worn off. This conflicts with others that say you need to be off everything for weeks before and after.   

I have a sitter (kind of). My girlfriend is an LPC and has been doing lots of research on how to be a "guide", even if it is just microdosing. She's incredibly supportive and is both invested and curious about the process. 

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Micro-Dosing / Re: Questions about other meds before microdosing
« on: June 29, 2018, 12:19:28 AM »
Thanks for hearing me out, y'all!

I was planning to start at 100mg for the first dose and see how I respond before increasing.

No, I'm not physically addicted to any one substance. I think I have an addictive mindset, convincing myself I can't sleep without valerian, melatonin and ambien.
And that I can't be social without a few drinks or phenibut or VERY rarely, a little white line.
And that I can't have sex without tongkat ali and sildenifil.
And that I can't release anxiety without a drink or kava.
And that I can't feel anything other than sadness without kratom, even if it's only for a few hours.   

To summarize, I just don't care anymore. About anything; parenting, sex, music, beauty, nature, vacations, food. The only reason I'm still around is because my tween daughter needs her dad. I won't give up. I'm hoping the iboga can help me correct all that. Seems like I've tried everything else, SSRIs, SNRIs, tricyclics, MAOIs, antipsychotics, benzos, CBD, lots of herbs, nootropics, etc (I've been at this a LONG time.)  I even had THREE series of ketamine infusions and got nothing out of them other than a few hours of legalized tripping.

None of my current "tools" have a very long half-life. Am I missing something about metabolization? ("Damn it, Jim! I'm a musician, not a doctor!") The half life of adderall (not XR) is ~10 hours and the last dose I took five days ago was only 7.5mg. I never took more than 30mg a day, which was rare, and always split in two.  This last week, I get sleepy mid-morning and late afternoon without it. Can't use caffeine because it causes more anxiety.
 
I guess my wording on the kava and kratom was a bit dramatic; I don't NEED them to function, it's just that without them I'm even more of a depressed and/or anxious mess. I've convinced myself that I can't get by without them.  (Sometimes I think I'm more addicted to the morning and afternoon process of toss n washing than I am to the chemicals themselves.) I'm only taking 8-10g of kratom a day (six days a week), MUCH lower than the folks on the r/quittingkratom subreddit. 

Also, I have ZERO spirituality so I'm worried that iboga won't work for me if I don't understand the sacredness of the plant. At least that's what I've read on a lot of iboga sites.

Other than all that, I'm pretty healthy. I go to the gym, get regular blood labs and checkups, I don't eat sugar or grains, drink plenty of water.  I don't have a reason for taking care of my body, mind you (well, maybe vanity), it's just another habit.

Thanks again for listening.

 

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Micro-Dosing / Questions about other meds before microdosing
« on: June 28, 2018, 12:47:27 PM »
Hey all,

I'm getting ready to start macrodosing RB powder for depression and anxiety. Not addiction or PTSD, so I don't think I need a flood, even if I COULD afford the time off to do it with a provider.

Trying to be as safe as possible, I have a couple of questions before I start:

Do I really need to get an EKG and liver panel for microdosing?  I've never had heart or liver issues, I'm in excellent PHYSICAL health.

I quit Cymbalta (tapered down for a week from 30mg), Adderall (15mg) and ambien (0.125mg) four days ago, is that long enough of a dry-out period?

I'm still taking small amounts of kava and kratom (plain leaf) because otherwise, I wouldn't be able to function. I also cut alcohol back to 2 drinks a night (from 4-5), but won't have any the night(s) before.   Will any of those be a problem?  I've seen conflicting information.

I had phenibut today (only take it once a week), how long does that need to be out of the system?

Will I be able to work while microdosing?

Thanks in advance for any and all responses. 

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