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They´re definately gonna ban iboga-therapy. The site of the D.A. is very clear about their intentions.
I´m shocked...

All of this deeply concerns me.

I tried to gather info via the ibogaworld site, but it appears to be offline.
I live in the netherlands and i wonder if there is anything that i/we could do.

The problem is that the political climate in the netherlands is very bad right now. Most people in the netherlands have never heard of iboga, but when attention is drawn towards iboga, it may very well get banned.

If there are other dutch members i´d like to hear what they think. I would like to do something to help both sara as well as to keep iboga legal in the netherlands.
Maybe we could organise something.

Eboka Talk / Re: Iboga+Mushrooms bad experience.....
« on: September 09, 2011, 11:09:29 AM »
My experience's with this combination are only positive, but i have had one bad experience with pure iboga and in my view a bad trip on iboga is definately far worse than a bad trip with any other substance. Combining iboga with another psychedelic could definately increase the chance of having a bad trip.

Iboga is not like any other psychedelic. Iboga is a heavy drug that you cannot play with like it's LSD, mescaline or psilocybe.

If iboga kicks your but, it will hit you very hard and you will feel it hurting for quite some time.

General Discussion / Re: feeling electrocic shocks.
« on: July 28, 2011, 01:10:10 PM »
Well, at least my experiences with bark from cameroon are all positive while this single experience with bark from congo was a very unpleasant one.

At the moment i took the congolese rootbark though, levels of noribogaine in my blood must already have been quite high. I think an interaction between the noribogaine in my blood and some alkaloid present in the rootbark probably caused these very unpleasant effects, since i never heard any complaint about congolese bark from others.

General Discussion / Re: feeling electrocic shocks.
« on: July 28, 2011, 08:33:22 AM »
All my previous iboga experiences where with rootbark from cameroon, but this one was with rootbark from congo.
I think there must have been some alkaloid in it that interacted negatively with noribogaine already present in my bloodstream.

General Discussion / Re: feeling electrocic shocks.
« on: June 30, 2011, 01:19:08 PM »
That's odd. Since i don't take SSRI's and noribogaine is an SSRI. So some compound present in iboga causes symptoms equal to SSRI withdrawal symptoms. This is getting more intruiging by the minute.

General Discussion / Re: feeling electrocic shocks.
« on: June 30, 2011, 09:58:00 AM »
It's debilitating indeed. I wonder if it is ibogaine itself wich caused this, or some other alkaloid. I think it must have been another alkaloid, but i would like to find out. I don't want to experience this again.

General Discussion / feeling electrocic shocks.
« on: June 29, 2011, 03:21:24 PM »
Has anybody ever felt 'electric shocks' after taking ibogaine? My first experiences with ibogaine where very comfortable and i never experienced these 'shocks', but during my last iboga experience, i constantly felt like my brain was being electrocuted. I constantly felt these shocks that where very uncomfortable and especially when i was thinking about death in some way, these shocks would be very, very heavy, making me shiver heavily sometimes. Has anybody ever experienced such a thing?

I've recently discovered that different types of rootbark can give different types of experience. I thought i knew the effects of iboga by now, but then i took some rootbark from congo, and had a totally new kind of experience with it.
It was rather uncomfortable, to be fair. I felt like my brains where being electrocuted constantly, for over twelve hours. Then, there wheren't the afer effects i'm familiar with, with the spectacular tracers everywhere ,either. This bark was very strong, but almost entirely without visual effects. Mental effects where extremely powerfull though.

General Discussion / Re: The Dark phase and the Light phase
« on: June 25, 2011, 04:06:48 PM »
My first flood experience consisted of three phases. The first phase was a deeply chaotic phase that was also deeply psychedelic with indeed a strange dark dimension to it. Then there was a phase where i seemed to come down, where the psychedelic effects had worn off and where i just felt some sort of sedated stonedness, then there was a third phase where i started tripping again that i indeed experienced as lighter.
I think it's the result of metabolisation of ibogaine into noribogaine. Noribogaine definately has it's own quality.

If you take a 'small' dose each day for a series of days, eventually you'll reach a point where the levels of iboga in your blood are so high that you'll need a smaller dose to get the effects of a flood dose. I accidentally discovered this, but bancopuma told me that the bwiti also use iboga this way.
4 to 5 grams of iboga rootbark can have the same effects this way, that you'd normally have with 10 grams. If you take 4 to 5 grams you won't have to puke.
The puking is not caused by the iboga in your blood, but by the iboga in your guts and stomach.

General Discussion / Re: Food and Drink 12 hours before partaking
« on: June 09, 2011, 03:26:56 PM »
Banana contains a lot of potassium. Puking depletes the body of potassium, so it won't hurt to eat a lot of banana's the days before taking a flooddose, to make sure your body has a good supply of it.

BTW, i'm still seeing those tracers when i wake-up in the morning!!

Since i discovered this phenomenon by accident, the method needs to be worked out some more.
To reproduce the experiment, you'd first need to make sure that levels of ibogaine in your blood are simmilar to what they would be shortly after having taken a low-end flooddose, wich would be around 10 grams of rootbark. Taking 1 gram each day for 10 days in a row might do it but maybe you would need a little more and make it 12 days. Then on the next day you'd take 3 grams and the following day you'd take 4 to 5 grams. Those 4 to 5 grams should then have the effect of 10 grams of bark.

For people with very heavy addictions like with many years of opiate usage, first flooding the normal way with 20 grams would be better, since they would need something in that range to stop the withdrawals.
But if they would feel they'd need a SECOND flood, this method could prevent a lot of discomfort.

For people with only mild addictions on the other hand like nicotine, cannabis or an opiate habit that has develloped only fairly recently, who would normally be scared away from ibogaine because of it's heavy physical effects, this may lower the threshold for them to decide to take ibogaine for addiction treatment.

Ibogaine could become a more serious option for many people.

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