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General Discussion / Farewell Eboka
« on: March 18, 2013, 09:30:27 PM »
Hi Eboka Nation,

I have been pondering for days if and how to write this, I decided to do it out of the respect for the forum where I have spend some of my time, and got a lot of information, and made a lot of friends.

I was out of the forum for few months, and came back to find out that most of my "friends" are gone... strange feeling...

Yet I see that the forum, IMHO is not going where it should, and to be specific I am talking about the flooding: in plain English it is from 12mg to 20mg x kg, and it is given as test dose and then after 2 hours the rest.  This is it, as it was explained in a sticky, on this very forum. Why not stick to the "sticky"? lol just to break the ice a little.

I saw a lots of loose and strange advises on how to flood: this makes the forum go to place of confusion. Lack of accurate dosing gives wrong results, and a lots of hope and money is lost. 

Yet I see that moderators advise all kinds of doses for a full flood. I think it is wrong and irresponsible.

so Farewell Eboka


Eboka Pharmacology, Research and Clinical Findings / NO GRAPEFRUIT
« on: December 05, 2012, 03:55:05 PM »
Hi all Eboka Nation,

we all know that grapefruit should not be mixed with Iboga(aine), but check this report I found on one cite:

Grapefruits can trigger overdoses in dozens of medicines researchers warn

Millions of people taking medicines for high cholesterol, cancer and to prevent heart attacks are at risk of potentially life threatening side effects if they eat grapefruits, doctors have warned.

By Rebecca Smith | The Telegraph – 5 hours ago

A study has listed 43 major drugs which are affected by eating grapefruits or drinking the juice and experts have warned there needs to be more awareness of the risks.

The number of drugs that interact with grapefruit increased from 17 in 2000 to 43 in 2008, researchers in Canada found.

Eating one grapefruit a day or drinking 200ml of juice was enough to trigger significant side effects in some of the patients.

Elderly patients were at particular risk because they are more likely to eat grapefruit and be on the medicines that interact with it, while their bodies are less able to cope with the effects of an overdose, the researchers said.

Grapefruits and some other citrus fruits, contain specific chemicals that affects an enzyme in the gut which can lead to a greater proportion of the drug being absorbed into the body.

This can result in massive overdoses causing serious side effects ranging from hallucinations, low blood pressure, to kidney poisoning, muscle damage, high heart rate and breathing problems.

The findings were published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal.

Some people have died following the interaction and experts said doctors and pharmacists needed to be more aware of the problem.

The study, conducted by Dr David Bailey, of the Lawson Health Research Institute, in London, Ontario, listed several examples of interactions including one patient who suffered a potentially life threatening increase in heart rate while on the heart disease drug aimodarone and drinking between one and 1.5 litres of grapefruit juice a day.

Another one atorvastatin for high cholesterol suffered serious muscle damage after drinking freshly squeezed grapefruit juice daily for five days and one who developed a blood clot while on Ethinylestradiol, a form of hormone replacement therapy for menopause symptoms who had eaten a whole grapefruit at breakfast for three days.

Popular drugs affected in this way include simvastatin, taken for high cholesterol, clopidogrel to thin the blood, Tyverb for breast cancer, domperidone for sickness and powerful painkillers Fentanyl, Oxycodone and Ketamine.

One drug, dextromethorphan, is an anti-cough preparation used in over-the-counter products and other drugs that interact with grapefruit are some antibiotics, some anti-HIV drugs, quinine that is in tonic water and has been used against malaria, heart rhythm medicines, and anti-rejection drugs used following organ transplants.

For some drugs drinking 200ml of juice daily was enough to deliver three to six times the normal dose.

Dr Bailey said: "Many of the drugs that interact with grapefruit are highly prescribed and are essential for the treatment of important or common medical conditions.

"Unless health care professionals are aware of the possibility that the adverse event they are seeing might have an origin in the recent addition of grapefruit to the patient's diet, it is very unlikely that they will investigate it.

"In addition, the patient may not volunteer this information. Thus, we contend that there remains a lack of knowledge about this interaction in the general healthcare community."

The grapefruit effect can work in both ways, to reduce the amount of drug absorbed by the body, or to increase it, as was studied in this research.

Prof Simon Maxwell, Clinical Lead of Prescribing at the British Pharmacological Society and Professor of Clinical Pharmacology at the University of Edinburgh, said: "There are a lot of drugs on the list, including some very important high volume ones. But they represent a minuscule fraction of the compounds out there.

"Serious interactions are not a massive problem in Britain but we are probably not talking to our patients about it enough and awareness amongst doctors is definitely not high enough."

He said some of the interactions were theoretical such as dextromethorphan used in some cough mixtures as the amount of the active drug used in those medicines was very low. Also, despite quinine in tonic water being listed as having caused a serious reaction in one patient, Prof Maxwell said this was likely to be extremely rare.

Prof Maxwell said researchers should investigate if the grapefruit effect could be harnessed so lower doses of these drugs could be prescribed with the juice to allow the same clinical effect from less of the active medicine.

But this would be complicated and costly to study he said.

Leyla Hannbeck, Head of Pharmacy at the National Pharmacy Association said: “Grapefruit juice and fresh grapefruit can interfere with the action of a range of prescription and non-prescription drugs.

"In some cases this can result in potentially dangerous levels of the active ingredient in the blood.

"So if you have any concerns about how your diet could affect your medicines ask your pharmacist for advice. A face-to-face discussion with the pharmacist can be the key to safer and more effective medicines use.”

Ten drugs affected by grapefruits and the side effects it can cause:

Tyverb, for breast cancer – fast heart rate and bone marrow problems

Amiodarone, to prevent blood clots after surgery – fast heart rate

Clopidogrel, to thin the blood – becomes less effective

Dronedarone, for heart rhythm disorder atrial fibrillation – fast heart rate

Rivaroxaban, a blood thinning tablet to prevent stroke – stomach bleeding

Buspirone, for anxiety – dizziness and sedation

Fentanyl given orally for pain relief – slows breathing

Domperidone, for sickness – fast heart rate

Atorvastatin for high cholesterol – kidney poisoning

Simvastatin for high cholesterol – kidney poisoning

Hi all,

check out this cite:

it is interesting, it talks about pleasure form Darwinian and neurosicientific direction.

It is writen by David Pearce, and his online book "The Hedonistic Imperative", I am reading now, not sure if I like it... But the has a lots of sicentific links regarding pleasure, addictions, it is good as a resource...


Announcements, News & Events / Colorado, Washington VICTORY
« on: November 07, 2012, 11:23:09 AM »
Hi EBOKA Nation,

I call us to celebrate the legalization of RECREATIONAL (word that needs rehab) use of marijuana, and many other progressive goals as in:

In the next post I will express my contraversial side, but for a day lets cheer.


General Discussion / Aya Sourcing
« on: October 02, 2012, 07:32:35 PM »
Hi all Eboka race,

I will like to work with Ayahuasca. I never have, so I don't know where and who to buy it from.
I buy my Iboga bark form reset, and I feel good about them, but it takes forever to reach me, I am in Mexico, (more then 3 weeks).
Is anybody on this continent who sels it. I saw Kiwi, as per advise on this forum, but, it seems they are whole sale, minimum amount is 5kg, I have no idea if is even my cup of tee (lol), so I am not ready for such a huge amounts.
I have posted on Nexus, but no answer.

thanx all

General Discussion / Iboga ANTIDOTE
« on: May 03, 2012, 12:49:49 PM »

on this cite:

they talk about Iboga antidote, and treatment interruption. They had a course in trainging providers, both with doctors and "shaman" (sorry, i am cynical).

I tried to google and search for such "antidote"... but couldn't find any.

On this cite there is no mention, or little...

any light on this topic?


General Discussion / Microdosing-Dreams problems
« on: April 23, 2012, 02:05:23 PM »
Hi all,

we have 4 months of mycrodosing, and now again the dreams-nightmares are appearing. In the morning we both are exhausted with the dreams, almost in physical pain.

We do one hour of meditation and the mind is pretty clear, and the rest of the day is good...

So my conclusion is that Iboga bark is kicking the mental garbage out? (Like after full flood there are no dreams in days)

Am I right, or should we stop mdosing? Or is it healing or damaging? not sure.


ps. should have I posted it in microdosing clipboard?

General Discussion / KAMBO protocol
« on: March 09, 2012, 02:34:18 PM »
Hi Kambogahuasca Panacea,

I just got Kambo, but don't know how to use it. Tell me please:

1. how much first time?
2. in the morning or evening.
3. is there a test dose for first time?
4. ..... and everything else I should know...


ps. I am without regular internet access, so I check it once a day in the afternoon.

Micro-Dosing / Micro Dosing and Anxiety
« on: February 25, 2012, 09:26:58 PM »
Hi all,

yesterday my husband had an anxiety attack. He never had one before.
Iboga history:

12 months ago he had a very strong full flood.
3 months ago we started microdosing less then 200mg in the morning
    - the only reaction was increased dreamings,
but last week he started having "shadows" in the corner of the eyes, and even a flash of "hallucinations"

The conclusion is that full flood is better in a way that it just moves the garbage out in one hit.

Since we didn't have the $ to do it again, we went for the bark.
It could be that the integration of the bark with everyday life is very beneficial, we don't know for sure.

But if the anxiety attack increases and the "hallucinations" it will not be possible, we will have to do FF.
The reason is Borderline Personality Disorder, and the results were beyond the best expectations.


General Discussion / FASTING *how to*
« on: February 12, 2012, 04:54:30 PM »
I have seen on this forum, and on Aya forums, that people are confused about fasting, and make it more difficult then it really is. I have been fasting all kinds of fasts for years now. Here are some tips for one day fast as preparation for full flood.


1. fasting is not *missing a meal* nor *eating less*, it is NOT using *digestive process*.

Break-fast, is the first meal, so if fast, you don't brake it. In this way your digestive system stays 'asleep', and there is really not much urge to eat. If you do eat, anything, or even take liquid food that asks for digestive enzimes, your body starts generating them, and you will get hungry. when the next meal is due.

IF you are normally "hungry" in the morning you have acidity problem. Nobody should get up hungry in the morning, this is not good. To correct this try taking fiber only for dinner, no other food, maybe with some soymilk, no yogurt for acidity reasons.
Yet if it doesn't work, you may look into it, this is not good.
Lets assume you don't have acidity problem, or the fiber will resolve it.

2. Physically fasting is PAIN. Pain produces the emotion of self-pity. Not very good. And as on long fasts PAIN leads to "ego death" to use the term people are here familiar with. PAIN as ego death, is a path that is Zen, Yoga and Sado-Masochism.
If interested I can talk about this concept.

Since this forum deals with addictions among other things, addictive mind almost can't take a path of PAIN, as a path of transformation, without the good preparation.

Yet I think that complete healing is when this aspect of our body is explored.

The self-pity may arise, but it will not be impossible to deal with it:
a) Take showers every two hours.
b) Take walks
c) give yourself 'selfmassage' or somebody do it for you.
d) when you drink water, or juice, or urin ( I will go into them more) make it as a meal: Set a table, and put a class in front and take time to do it
e) don't use much of the left side of the brain like : movies, chats, talks, or any language, this all alters the mind and weakens the power to deal with the fast.

3. Body preparation: you don't want to have any stool in your colon. When the body gets the idea that there is no food, it looks fast, and it goes first to colon.... clear.... you don't want that.

Fasting and cleaning the colon are hand in hand. If you have $$$ do colonics, professional, if not, I can tell you how.

4. I am getting tired of writing. Let me know if you want a protocol for one day fast or not. There are many forums on fasting. It is a great tool, and as anything it is addictive, I used to fast a lot...

so gimme a light to go on

Eboka Journals / FAMILY micro Dosing
« on: January 07, 2012, 07:25:32 PM »
All family microdosing

I am micordosing, my husband and his mother.

(H)  My husbands reason: Borderline Personality Disorder, Narcisist personality disorder. Full flood last March. Violence.

(MIL) My mother-in-laws reason: trying to get out of abusive relationship.

(I) My reason (just not to be a party pooper)

Two months of 1 capsule of root bark in the morning with lemon water.

The change was immediate, feeling present, clear mind, better meditation practice.

Yet sometimes the headackes will occure duration of an hour, if stronger then we will interupt it for few days.

but now
A lots of dreams, nightmares, and sleep problems. We interrupted the treatment for few days and now we are going to go back to it... and take sleep aid in 5-htp as recommended on this forum.

(She is Oaxacan, Zapotecan woman in the 60ties.)
We were surprised that she accepted Iboga. But she takes it on her own terms, we really don't know what and how to guide her... Yet she was so impressed by the medication, that she gave it to her other son, that was about to get a (diagnosed) Bipolar outbrake, and it made him feel better..... *this is the short version, but it is almost comic*
She felt surprised not to miss her abusive lover, after he attacked her with machete.


I feel more relaxed in interaction with people
I don't talke at, or over people.
I have a lots of dreams...

What is next?

My husband has made a huge progress. I just want to say that BPD is almost not treatable, and therapists don't even like to take this type of patient.

BUT he has music and radio, tv. on all the time.... (the mind is still very restless)
He still interacts with people with defence
He is very jealous....

We will

0. we terminated dayliy microdosing of 2 months
1. do another flood.
2. do microdosing as 2g-2g-7g x 3 days. as per Polytrip *where are U buddy*

He did only one flood. it was full of nightmares, yet since it was so strong he didn't have any emotional reaction, else it would have been the worst thrip ever.

So when we got root bark we didn't want to do 2-2-7g, because it could have brought up the mental shit that is not out yet.

We decided he better do small doses every day, and it DID bring nightmares in regular sleep.

so this is kind of my report so far...


Announcements, News & Events / Server Problems?
« on: November 20, 2011, 05:12:37 PM »
Hi all.

In past few weeks I have hard time with connecting to, like for a day or two, there is no connection. This is the only cite I cant open up? does anybody has this problem. I am in mexico... why would it happen?


General Discussion / vendor questions
« on: November 20, 2011, 04:47:38 PM »
Hi Dph,

I hope a good response to this thread, since I have been struggling to get my hands on good Iboga:

1. I (think) I had Sacrement Marko hcl. It was a kick ass at 10mg x kg.

2. I had IW root bark, and I did extraction, GOT NOTHING out, the bark had very small amount. I still took what I got extracted and had some use after all.... thanks to guidance of Greatfull DAD.

3. I had 1 g of IW HCl, that I administred to my husband anally, and almost nothing happened, total waste. ( there is my thread somewhere on the formu)

4. I got, root bark. My husband and his mother are microdosing it, and so far so good...


1. other then IW, and, nobody offers HCl, Did anybody had Reset? How did it go?

2. Shamanic-extract offers 2g for 30$.
Does the price, as they say, means it is super powerful. I will like to do extraction of this bark...? and then take it as fresh as extracted, to me this is the most reliable way to do it.

any opinions?


Flooding / Definition of a flood
« on: October 13, 2011, 07:13:01 PM »
Hi eboka people,

I will define full flood as:

1. the pulse goes down for 1/3. ex: if you had 86 x min, in full flood it will be 56 x min.

2. the muscles don't work: you are laying on your bed and can't lift a finger, let alone get up...

THIS IS FUNDAMENTAL imho because this way the EMOTIONS are cut off, or in other words you can't have a bad trip, no matter what hells and demos you are looking at.

This way your brain gets full detox, WITHOUT stress of bed trip, that I think produces PTSD.

I would say:

1. do full flood as described above (your provider will give you the math, it can vary, since the alkaloids loose strength over time)
2. do microdosing, so you don't trip...

what does the eboka population thinks?


Micro-Dosing / Protocols for Microdosing
« on: October 13, 2011, 06:44:06 PM »
Hi eboka people,

lets post our own protocols for microdosing. (is protocol the right word?)


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