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I don't underestimate the skill involved at all and I have no doubt that there are some very skillful people out there running legitimate centres or Bwiti shamans (if you are lucky enough to know how to contact one).  If you read my post again, you will see that I wrote that people should do the research and that the sitter should be someone they trust not some cowboys in another country with a fancy website. If I was going to die in such a situation, then I would rather it be with someone who cared about me and not a bunch of people trying to make a quick buck and then cover it up when things went wrong.  That's me voicing my opinion on it and there will be others who have different opinions which they are entitled to. It's all hypothetical though and I did say that hindsight is a wonderful thing.


Sorry, you are misunderstanding my comment.  You wrote: " I always wonder why they didn't just find a sitter they trusted and do it themselves"  It's the "just" I was commenting on.  The "just" stuck out for me because in my view there is no "just" about that -- it is the key and the hardest part.

They did "find a sitter they trusted and do it themselves" as best as they knew at the time. 

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When I read stories like this, I always wonder why they didn't just find a sitter they trusted and do it themselves.

I get the impression, maybe wrongly, you tell me, that you underestimate the skill involved in being a sitter.  You say 'find a sitter' as if it was much simpler and more straightforward than finding a 'center.'  BUt in my view they are kind of the same thing.  Sitters can vary wildly in understanding and deeply affect the outcome.  Finding a sitter, the right one, is pretty much 'it.'  Those 2 assholes were sitters, just very bad ones.

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http://rim951.fr/?p=2967

If you understand French, it is excellent.  I learned a lot.

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Micro-Dosing / relating to a plant spirit vs. ingesting a molecule
« on: July 02, 2014, 09:44:36 PM »
This is an open question to all practitioners.  Microdosing for me is inseparable from the skill of communicating with the plant -- asking and listening.  I learned this skill from another plant medicine and it serves me well.  I have no idea what it would be like to attempt this deep meditation/therapy/healing process with an isolated molecule like ibogaine.  I have no idea how I would go about it.  Yet I know some people practice it successfully with ibogaine.  I'd like to hear from people about the difference between the two and how it affects their spiritual work. 

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General Discussion / Re: IBOGA SUPPLY CRISIS IN GABON - IMPORTANT
« on: March 06, 2014, 02:18:25 AM »
Anyone know how long seeds stay good for?

Go to the Iboga Cultivation section.

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General Discussion / Re: Extreme Healing: Working with the Heavy Stuff
« on: March 05, 2014, 06:38:42 AM »
Yes, yes it is.

It would be nice to hear more of your ideas on the use of Iboga, particularly about microdosing...

Well, there is this mini-guide, which is thoughtful and well-written, IMO.

http://eboka.info/index.php?topic=2482.0

I posted below it with a couple of complements and links.

There is one main thing I would add. 

Bear in mind that I am not an expert on addiction treatment.  My comments refer only to microdosing for personal development.  Working with this plant while dealing with heavy emotions, personal emergencies or immediate physiological imbalances -- that's not my department.  I can learn, but I don't have experience with it.     

For me the most striking property of iboga is its ability to erase patterns -- all kinds -- and operate as a multidimensional reset button.

Another unusual thing about it is how it tends to linger in your system and not dissipate after three days like most teacher plants.

Considering these two properties, I think it is imperative to have a practice of introspection, of stepping back from one's current life events and looking for a larger picture.  One needs a sense of where one is at in one's journey, a sense of which way is up, a sort of cosmic common sense.  Some people call that seasoning, maturity or wisdom.  Whatever you call it, it's not to be found in a pill, even the most magical kind. 

Without it, there can be a risk of getting disoriented and confused. 

You can make things disappear with it.  That is truly an awesome power.  When a pattern disappears -- mental, emotional, physiological, karmic, whatever -- you need to know what to fill the empty space with.  You need to have a sense of direction to be able to integrate the change in a broader process of evolution.  I don't mean a sense of direction as in a career or life plan in the outer world.  I mean a sense of direction about this work.  The direction, of course, is deeper in.

I would say that the most important thing about microdosing for personal evolution is the other things that you are doing beside the microdosing -- psychotherapy, meditation, writing, art, energy work, any kind of healing practice that will help you develop that kind of savvy, that sense of which way is up and which way you are headed.  You can look at it as getting the technical skills needed to operate this incredibly powerful tool.  Your spaceship driver's license.

The bill is $ 0.02.

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General Discussion / Re: IBOGA SUPPLY CRISIS IN GABON - IMPORTANT
« on: March 04, 2014, 05:48:25 PM »
I put it on this and aya.com

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General Discussion / Re: IBOGA SUPPLY CRISIS IN GABON - IMPORTANT
« on: March 04, 2014, 03:08:56 PM »
More bad news from Yann Guignon, on the ground in Libreville:

Today is a sad day for bwitiste tradition in Gabon. One of us went to the market to buy traditional crafts. This is where he learned a group of Americans had to travel all the market to buy all the iboga they founded even without tasting it ! In parallel, a seller of iboga from mayumba came to our village to try to sell us 6 bottles of fake iboga ! The situation becomes dramatic for all healers in Gabon, Libreville especially those who do not have the opportunity to plant without considering the land around the capital . Iboga soon will disappear Gabonese public domain . I announced the next 5 years in my report there is 1 year and a half but it seems that only 3 years it will be over. This is the result of hyper communication around the iboga without any steps to conserve resources in the main producer countrie. Of course, the providers say it is the fault of the Gabonese authorities... It's like the elephant tusks: the culprits are not buyers but African countries that fail to protect elephants !

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Micro-Dosing / Re: Iboga Microdosing Guide
« on: February 16, 2014, 03:38:04 AM »
Excellent work, Bancopuma!  I just found this thread and I am impressed with the caring and the accuracy in this miniguide.  Bravo!

I would just add that for people who are dealing with heavy traumatic incidents, there are special bits of information and technical skills that must be taken into consideration.  For more details, I recommend the website listed below, especially this page:

http://extremehealing.org/what-is-the-heavy-stuff/

and this page:

http://extremehealing.org/the-willingness-to-feel-a-learnable-skill/

For people like Lissos who seem to be dealing with many layers of stuff, I would not presume to give specific advice online, but I noticed a curious fact.  When we get serious about healing-and-dealing (with our own stuff), we need to do everything that we know helps us.  We have to do everything that works and do it in combination, be it nutrition, psychotherapy, meditation, yoga, writing poetry, playing frisbee, whatever you observed to be helpful.  It is one of those ideas that seem so obvious and silly that saying it looks like a total waste of time, but precisely for this reason, I found that it is worth saying.

One more comment.  It is recommended to do this ceremonially.  The ceremony could be as simple as lighting a candle and spending a few moments sensing where you are at, calming your mind and your heart as much as you know how, and formulating your intention for the session.  Doing an opening like this is a way to transition from your everyday life in which, as Bancopuma pointed out, your mind is running you instead of you running it, to the special space-time in which you will do this incredible alchemy.

Closing the session can be more tricky because this medicine tends to linger in the system for days on end, but if you are about to attend to worldly responsibilities and won't be able to give this work your attention, you should do a closing too.  This way, the integrity of the work is preserved and by not diluting it, you are giving it more transformative power. 

Also, this is a way to be connected with the traditional roots ( :) ) of this medicine, acknowledging those who have passed it on to us and taught us how to work with it and whose very existence is threatened as I type.  We did not invent any of this.  We are at the receiving end of a very long lineage.

Happy exploring! 

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General Discussion / Re: Extreme Healing: Working with the Heavy Stuff
« on: February 11, 2014, 09:59:01 AM »
"‘Personality’ forms by aggregating our resistance to all the things we are not willing to experience.  A being who would never have experienced any trauma or serious challenge would have no boundaries and would be unable to operate in society."

That's pretty trippy.

That's a compliment, right?

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General Discussion / Re: Extreme Healing: Working with the Heavy Stuff
« on: February 11, 2014, 08:53:43 AM »
This is awesome. I love how it feels so detached from any particular worldview or system. Keep it up :)

Thanks for the good words, Rintrah.  Inch'Allah, in a couple of months I will have a nature retreat where people will be able to come for this type of study.

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General Discussion / Re: Extreme Healing: Working with the Heavy Stuff
« on: January 29, 2014, 03:55:39 AM »
Wow - I really, really like this. Really resonates with me. I find it quite fantastic I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes further!

Thank you.

Further?  Do you mean as in scheduling workshops?  As in posting more detailed info? Or...?

Anything, really. More posts, developments in powerful synergies between entheogens and other tools, other people being inspired and perusing their healing with more empowerment and reporting back, etc... Curious, are you planning on scheduling workshops (that would be awesome) or adding to your site?

Yes, there will be more pages.  It is also the outline of a book project and of a doctoral thesis.  Neither of those projects are set up yet.

I might also start using the site as a regular blog, posting a kind of diary of that work.

Yes, I definitely intend to start scheduling workshops.  I am beginning to negotiate with existing centers.  Most importantly, I am looking for a place to create a nature sanctuary and healing retreat where individuals will be able to come and do this kind of in-depth inner work.  If you have information or ideas (or real estate :) ) you can PM me.

On the larger picture, there is definitely a growing movement to combines teacher plants with other healing practices and create hybrid systems like this one.  I think we will see a lot of that in the coming years.

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General Discussion / Re: Extreme Healing: Working with the Heavy Stuff
« on: January 28, 2014, 06:56:54 PM »
Wow - I really, really like this. Really resonates with me. I find it quite fantastic I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes further!

Thank you.

Further?  Do you mean as in scheduling workshops?  As in posting more detailed info? Or...?

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General Discussion / Re: Extreme Healing: Working with the Heavy Stuff
« on: January 25, 2014, 09:50:23 AM »
Thank you.  It's good to know that you resonate with it.

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