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Ya I haven't been taking any this week and probably won't for t least a couple months. Next time will be a full flood.

How o I test the quality myself? Would doing an extraction myself prove anything about potency based on the amount of extract I can pull? I've ordered alot of things from my source and I do believe that they are legit. The rest of the products is potent and to expectations.They even told me that it was the same bark that the  bwitti use for ceremonies and they seem very confident with the quality of there products.

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Ok so I've been lurking around this forum and other forums for a while now and I've used over 70 grams rb in total within3 months and also did diferent doses sessions.

Last time was last week and I'd 10 g rb in one dosing.

With much interest in this plant and its mysterious ways of working with us. I've noticed if I do multiple days at around 4-5 grams I start being tolerant to it and it seems to not have full "effects" had to wit about 2weeks and after that only 7 grams would put me in my bed for a couple hours and then give me a mild glow effect for a couple days.

Based on some info I found it dosent show any negative/toxic effects when used at 1 single high/flood dose per day for multiple days.

From what I've read you can detect high levels of noribogaine after 24h and it will be stored in fat tissues for a couple months or so but I can't find anywhere where this warning that I see people write on the board about being cautious about not reflooding to early because of the high levels of noribogaine could be dangerous. Where does this info come from? Here's what I found from http://www.ibogainetreatment.net/?q=science

Toxicity

LD50 of ibogaine has been determined in guinea pigs (82 mg/kg i.p.) and in rats (327 mg/kg intragastric, 145 mg/kg i.p.) Chronic administration of ibogaine in rats ? 10 mg/kg i.p. for 30 days or 40 mg/kg i.p. for 12 days ? did not result in any pathological effect on liver, kidneys or brain. No pathologic effects have been demonstrated in apes taking ibogaine in doses of 5-25 mg/kg p.o. for four subsequent days(2).
Certain earlier references note neurotoxic degenerative change in Purkyn? cells in little brain in rats after administration of ibogaine in the dose of 100 mg/kg i.p., including astrocytoma and microgliosis. The above-mentioned neurotoxicity is not likely to be related to NMDA effect of ibogaine. Some of the above-described changes are sometimes related to ibogaine effect on sigma2 receptors. The neurotoxic effects have not manifested themselves in mice and in rats have been limited to high doses. The ?typical? dose of 40 mg/kg causes significant effect to neither male nor female rats. The same lack of toxicity has been demonstrated by repeated doses of 10 mg/kg, including apes. Acute effect of 18-MK (100 mg/kg) does not cause any pathological effect on little brain. The described indications of neurotoxicity of ibogaine are related to administration of relatively high doses of ibogaine, never used in therapy. Ibogaine may also demonstrate neuroprotective effects (for example preventing lethal effect of NMDA in mice and minimising occurrence of spasms after electrical shock in mice)(2).
Results of clinical trials phase 1 have already been published ? for safety and kinetics(4). Subjects (n=40) receiving 500, 600 or 800 mg p.o. have not shown any significant adverse reactions, the most frequent adverse reactions including nausea and mild shiver or mild transient ataxia within 1 hour after administration. Vital sign checks (breath frequency, systolic and diastolic blood pressure and pulse) have not shown any significant change within 24 hours after administration for study or therapeutic purposes. The lymphocyte (neutropic) counts, the levels of sodium and potassium were within the limits. No significant changes have been observed in ALT, AST, alkaline phosphatase (ALP) and GGT. Intense monitoring has discovered no haemodynamic or electrocardiographic changes. Just two heavily crack dependent patients shoed hypotension at the beginning of the session. No acute or post-study adverse psychiatric effects, nor any brain dysfunctions have been reported. It can therefore be concluded that ibogaine administered in an isolated dose has been well tolerated by subjects and no significant risks reducing its safety have been observed.


I get that a super high doses at once might be dangerous what info do we have out there about the dangers of high noribogaine levels? I'd like to know how often would the bwiti people consume the bark in there casual life and how often do they wait between ceremonies to consume higher amounts.

I've  tried many enthogens also but these days I'm only experiencing with iboga. This spirit and I seem to have a great relationship and I'm willing to be a guinea pig for the sake of humanity with this wonderfull gift. So far I am feeling very happy and greatfull of having discoverered this Divine tool.

I am very much into pineal gland detox and activation,meditation,Higher concience, law of attraction, being in touch with the universe our mother the earth and all that it gives us and plant spirit and have a beilef that we are all multidimensional beings experience the human 3d experience right now.

Iboga and other teacher plants has helped alot in my journey... I feel that I have a strong bond with iboga..... I still want to be cautious about it though...

I've not used any other medicine or drugs and have only been eating "divinely" if I may say. I feel like it is calling me for a real flooddose/initiation wich my highest flood was 25 grams of rb over 30h with great effects. i was thinking about 25-35mg/kg in a single dose within a month from now. Last 10g dose was last week with 1booster of 1g 2days ago.

Before flooding I with only be fasting with fresh juice in my juicer and fibre and protein from hemp powder and organic protein shakes .

I am a 26yo male weighing around 100kilos



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General Discussion / Re: iboga juice
« on: March 18, 2014, 03:03:57 AM »
Bump!

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The previous batch that I got was from spirit botanical and this the the batch that I made my first flood with.


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Tranceplants.net

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Where can I ask for source check? Is it ok if I say the name of the website even if he's not a sponsor here?They are very quick for service and have good prices on it actually...

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Good to see a reunion of knowledgeable folks around here!

I little update. I'm up to 36 grams in total that I've been taking in the last 3 weeks. So far I feel good. No overstimulation or any discomfort. I've lowered my doses per day in the least couple days . I didn't take any yesterday and only took one gram this morning.

What are the max dosage anyone took within a month? What's the shortest time anyone ever went between floods? Today is Friday and I was thinking of taking 5grams later tonight to see if I will get any "near flood effects" what do you guys think? In my opinion it would be safe to take 5grams at once later tonight because I haven't experience any discomfort or overstimulation....

What would the bwiti people think of that? Anyone on this board ever went to a bwiti ceremony?


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With all due respect be careful, been there done that. 

Nice studies btw.

Defender of Tabernanthe iboga,
Kampum

Really ? Can you tell about your experience please?i have not consumed any drugs or alcohol with the exception of the occasional hit of the marijane with friends. I feels kinda right and is smoked this plant and its spirit and respect it also. And smoke tabacco I actually like smoking it just the negative effects sometime hat are not pleasant.I also smoke tabacco and was thinking of getting some organic tabacco and meek my own cigarettes because of the crap commercial tabaco has in.
 diet is very clean. No fluoride or any products that contains it. I take natural plant supplement like Iodine from organic kelp ,chaga mushroom, shilajit , omega 3 , fermented skate liver oil and activation x. Mostly to protect my pineal gland from human made toxins. I find that decalcify ing your body and your mind much more eficient.

I eat mostly plant based food  and for proton I eat mostly chiken and supplement with plant base organic protein supplements and New Zealand cow 100% natural whey supplements.

I'm 26years old. This looks very promising to enhance my enlightenment journey. Strikly as a tool from Mother Earth and everyday I meditate  at least an hour a day plus short one threw the day and follow my intuition wich in full confidence.

I'm very proud of myself and support all of you that are in this journey with respect.

Thanks
Cheers

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I am also very telepathic I find . I always had a bit of this happening with me but it seems stronger.... Lets say I think about someone they would call me right away. I seem to be able to figure what people will say also especially my girlfriend. Sometimes I'm with people and I start getting these super good ideas or making complex connections to things... It makes m laugh because I don't want to tell my friends it might be a bit overwhelming for them...

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My supplier told me that in 1kilo of rb they had 73kg of TA wich is around 7% . Everywhere I've reaserched it says that quality rb contains on average 4 to 6% alkaloids and half of that is ibogaine. So my supplier tells me that it's very high quality and its from cameroon africa.

Do you mean 73gram TA?  out of a Kilo?  I doubt that it is as high quality of RB as they say...  I got over 40grams TA out of just around 115 grams good quality RB.  I did an opiate detox on 4.5 grams of that TA and it worked wonders.. Your experience sounds amazing but if you had flooded proper, you wouldn't have been able to build a fire, you would have been completely laid out, unable to move... but maybe taking over the course of several days made you able to do this.. I really don't know, it sounds like you got a lot out of it regardless.


I still wouldn't advise flooding again this soon..  I will see what I can find out.  Did you get it from a reputable dealer or just some guy from Camaroon?

lalababa

Ya that's what I meant. what do you suggest is the percentage of TA  of good root bark suppose to be? If you got 40g out of 115g that's about 35% right?

I'm confused I thought that root bark contained 4-6% of TA and half of that would be ibogaine? Yes?

Ohh and I got it from an online source in Canada that have very good customer service and I've got other enthogens from them and always came threw with decent quality stuff. Also the reviews online about this site as been good but I could only find a few .... I wouldn't think they would screw me with this hopefully.its annoying me I need to find out the truth about this potency thing. If my experience could help others to improve themselves spiritualy and mentaly I will be satisfied. I need to have a clear idea of the potency of my stuff

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Tribes in the Congo and the Gabon region of West Africa have been using ibogaine for many years. Chewing the Tabernanthe root by tribal hunters is very common on hunting trips which last many days. It reportedly allows them to remain motionless for many hours while waiting for their prey. The root is also used in a tribal ritual in which boys pass on to men. This ritual usually lasts for three days during which the boy does not eat or sleep. It is believed that the supplicant has a near death experience.



-I'm sure the hunters would chew 5grams or more everyday on there hunting trip...
-I'm about worried about you guys being right on the potency... Is there anyways I could veryfy the potency myself? Except just experimenting it.


Last night sleept like a baby . I get up early and full of energy.. Very lucid dreams but I don't remember most of them. Feeling like the force if the law of attraction is very strong for me.....

You guys are right I will be carefully with the dosage. I don't want to go in a typing point when I'm in public or driving. I need to find an expert of some sort that could follow me with this and maybe check my blood levels of ibogaine.... Any fellow Canadians know of an iboga clinic near the Ottawa region? The closest I found online was in Toronto... Even in the Montreal area would be good.

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saturday 1h34am

Still feeling good. Did about 5 grams again . 3grams from 8ham to around 3-4 then about an other 2grams after that last dose(.6g) at 10 pm.

I seem to be peace wit iboga but I am still respecting everything about how I feel and the signs around me. I get thoughts about being in harmony with plants ... Even had empathy for plants enjoying and craving soil....lol. I know it sounds weird but it dosent feel weird and I feel the spirit seizing threw my eyes and feeling things... I don't see alot of beams of light but whenever I smudge my place with sage I can see a very lucid green little light or "spirit" wich would the best way in words that I'm feeling that I'm describing.

Sometimes in the day I get a little discomfort but nothing to bad. It's like a feeling of forced meditation .... No wonder Ancient languages where made out of hieroglyph and such because I could imagine how hard it would be for them to explain the experience of being in touch with the Devine with words lol. There is no words to describe how enlightenment  feels like, only drawings in my opinion....

I'm out to bed guys. I haven't had much sleep in the last days .my energy is threw the oof but something tells me I need a good recovery sleep tonight ( no alarms in the morning tomorrow! Yea! :-)

Do I make sens to you guys? Lol keep posting ;-) I want to read opinions.... Lets figure the iboga spirit out. Do you guys believe in its spirit and do you see it as a grift from the Devine?

Starting to feel a bit African also;-)

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Sorry about the writing I gotta get a keyboard for my iPad and my CPU is broken for now.... As you might know its long writing of the iPads keyboard.

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My supplier told me that in 1kilo of rb they had 73kg of TA wich is around 7% . Everywhere I've reaserched it says that quality rb contains on average 4 to 6% alkaloids and half of that is ibogaine. So my supplier tells me that it's very high quality and its from cameroon africa.

My last flood lasted about 3 days and had 1gray day after( literally ev e n the sky was completely Gray lol) I didn't go like you would expect because I dosed the rb gradually over 3 days . On day three I could see the world kinda like in the matrix but very color full and full of beams of different ol loured lights a lot of beautifull green beams. I felt like I could see spirit and on day 2 I was full of super energy and felt like a god and that I had the answer for alot of things and it was being transferred from the Devine. Almost like rushing info. So I decided to go gazing at the sunset at minus 20celcius outside.(I live in canada) and started doing my own ceremonie and went to the quarry to sun gaze that's when I was given the gift of the  red diamond. It was beautill and I saw to lion in the sun with a magnificent red diamond in his third eye and I felt like it was getting into me. After the sun was don I was told by the Devine to make a small fire and mediated to it. So I went into the bush and fired up a little camp fire and meditated to it.my girlfriend and one of my friend was there didn't know what was going on but I asked them o respect the spririt and to follow my lead so they did. They told me that there were feeling alot of my energy and believed wat was going on... Still kinda hard to explain all the details but then we went home.  And that's when the gods were exited o tell me all the knowledge of the universe ... It's funny it felt like they had an opportunity to tell everything they knew but all the gods were giving info at the same time so I had a hard time to processing everything and asked them to take turns... I guess they don't have the chance to do this much in these days. Not like in ancient times when the Devine and matter could communicate... Anyways after that I finished my last dose and laid down for about 10 hours.... And the Gray day was Monday.

Most amazing experience of my life.

By craving I mean cocaine ghb alcohol.... I'm not a junky but its alot I my surroundings.... Anyways I feel great today also it's 1pm and I already did my third gram by noon.... Will keep posting....

Thanks for being with me with this. I apreciate alot .....

What do you think?

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I've been using about 5 grams of root bark a day that supposedly has been tested in my source lab at 7 % ta. I was wondering if anyone else is doing this. I was thinking about doing this until I can't take anymore. I've been doing this for 3 days and frankly I feel great and wise... Even my performance in the gym has been improved physically and mentally.

I've have one a small flood dose(25g rb im a bit less then  100kilos  or 220 pounds)about a month Ago and i went threw the visions and change in most cravings but I'm still trying to shake off cigarettes (maybe its because I actually like smoking but it so bad) anyways I was thinking of continue my 5grams of daily dosage and maybe in the next week or so do about 25g in a day as a flood dose to go into deeper visions and devine knowledge.... I can't find any info or any articles about wat I'm doing. All I find is on single flood dosing and microdosing... I need support here guys :-) what do guys think? Do you think doing a flood dose after dosing about 30 to 50 grams spread out in less then 2weeks would get me to high levels of ibogaine maybe dangerous? What is the toxic dosage anyways? I herd it was very high but not sure how high....sorry for typos I'm tired and about to go to bed also my iPad keeps putting words I did not write sometimes and my first language is French so sometimes I mess up the way I place my words in sentences lol ;-b the important part is we understand eachother....

Any input would be very apreciated.

Cheers

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