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Eboka Talk / Re: Intro/Strong warning to breastfeeding mothers!
« on: May 01, 2017, 11:41:29 PM »
I have to be honest - this is careless as anything. I can see absolutely no reason to touch iboga in any form while breastfeeding. Iboga(ine) isn't going anywhere, and there simply must be more consideration given to an optimal time...
I appreciate your honesty about this situation, knowing you may get some backlash - I am not here to do that but I am compelled to reiterate we are not a scientific/peer reviewed forum at all - nor are we affiliated with any research or scholastic bodies which could perform empirical research. What we have are sharp, good hearted people (lay mostly) discussing interpretations of subjective anecdote.
I have a good bit of experience to draw from, some of it unbelievably painful and dangerous - so I certainly don't mean to come off sharp. There are many reasons I can think of to suspend or postpone any work at all with iboga during such a crucial time, (even microdose amounts) - and not a single reason great enough to attempt navigating the unknown risks that surely must come with such endeavors. Do you really want to expose an infant to so many unknowns? Dmitri doubtless gets his perspective from his experiences in Gabon...I would wager that such is not uncommon in their tribal lives, and likely has far more impact/implications for their own society and people. These are folks who literally have iboga 'in the blood' and it could even be integral to a healthy 'diet' while breastfeeding. But under the circumstances it just seems it would behoove any non indigenous, Western cultured people to defer to prudence over experimentation.
I appreciate your honesty about this situation, knowing you may get some backlash - I am not here to do that but I am compelled to reiterate we are not a scientific/peer reviewed forum at all - nor are we affiliated with any research or scholastic bodies which could perform empirical research. What we have are sharp, good hearted people (lay mostly) discussing interpretations of subjective anecdote.
I have a good bit of experience to draw from, some of it unbelievably painful and dangerous - so I certainly don't mean to come off sharp. There are many reasons I can think of to suspend or postpone any work at all with iboga during such a crucial time, (even microdose amounts) - and not a single reason great enough to attempt navigating the unknown risks that surely must come with such endeavors. Do you really want to expose an infant to so many unknowns? Dmitri doubtless gets his perspective from his experiences in Gabon...I would wager that such is not uncommon in their tribal lives, and likely has far more impact/implications for their own society and people. These are folks who literally have iboga 'in the blood' and it could even be integral to a healthy 'diet' while breastfeeding. But under the circumstances it just seems it would behoove any non indigenous, Western cultured people to defer to prudence over experimentation.