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Offline Jox

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Micro Dosing and Anxiety
« on: February 25, 2012, 09:26:58 PM »
Hi all,

yesterday my husband had an anxiety attack. He never had one before.
Iboga history:

12 months ago he had a very strong full flood.
3 months ago we started microdosing less then 200mg in the morning
    - the only reaction was increased dreamings,
but last week he started having "shadows" in the corner of the eyes, and even a flash of "hallucinations"

The conclusion is that full flood is better in a way that it just moves the garbage out in one hit.

Since we didn't have the $ to do it again, we went for the bark.
It could be that the integration of the bark with everyday life is very beneficial, we don't know for sure.

But if the anxiety attack increases and the "hallucinations" it will not be possible, we will have to do FF.
The reason is Borderline Personality Disorder, and the results were beyond the best expectations.

Jox

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Re: Micro Dosing and Anxiety
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2012, 10:53:31 PM »
I don't understand not enough money and getting rb instead.  So are you saying that the cost of TA would be too much?  It is a racket isn't it, the TA and hcl?  Easy to make but incredibly expensive if you don't.

We should have an emergency outreach program when people desperately need to flood and don't have the funds.  I know this shiny green frog that lives in trees that would volunteer. 

Maybe that's not what your saying at all, I can't exactly tell for sure.  I would say that a full flood followed with micros is best.  Then booster.  Then micro.  Of course breaks in between.  I never go for more than 2 weeks straight with RB.  I never go for more than 2 weeks with any powerful dieta.

The traditional Curandero method might be very applicable of a dieta program doing 2 weeks on and at least 3 days off.  I trust the keepers.   

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Re: Micro Dosing and Anxiety
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 12:15:26 AM »
Jox - tell him to take a break from micro dosing. You said you guys started doing it 3 months ago right? I take it that means 90 straight days of microdosing?
Yes,  those are small amounts, good microdoses, but the effects are strongly cumulative and with doses that small it likely just took this long for him to notice the buildup of some of these very common 'side effects'...

"Shadows" - peripheral mirages, flashes of light, trails and even some deeper hallucinations can happen. Let it do it's biological work and maybe lay off for a few weeks, the metabolites will still be actively doing what you want them to do on a somatic level, and there will be lessened chances of his experiencing uncomfortable or frightening side effects. Any of those effects could cause anxieties - so perhaps a two week break would remedy the psychological discomfort. Best of luck to you guys.
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Re: Micro Dosing and Anxiety
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 02:15:11 AM »
maybe I can help?  PM me if there is anything I can do

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Re: Micro Dosing and Anxiety
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 06:53:31 PM »
Hi guys,

I feel touched by your generosity. We are not in emergency right now.

I just wanted to journal our experience of microdosing for others to know and learn.

I have not read about the anxiety aspect, and it is good to know that it can happen.  And we'll do as Cal said...

thanx a lot for your support
Jox

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Re: Micro Dosing and Anxiety
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 07:13:02 PM »
I had a small issue with anxiety on my second (ever) micro-dose a few days ago.  Actually it wasn't a micro-dose, I was taking well over a gram.  Several days later I have dropped my dosage to 400mg and things have been wonderful.  Just my noob 2 cents  ;D

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Re: Micro Dosing and Anxiety
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2012, 08:38:59 AM »
I am diagnosed panic disorder/generalized anxiety disorder (has lots to do with feeling [un]comfortable with the people I am around) so I realize it may not be the same, since you say your husband has not experienced panic attacks in the past. My experiences with iboga, I felt pretty intense anxiety after a HCl flood. It was my first, and even taking extra Xanax did nothing to calm my nerves. Ganja does this to me as well- benzos won't help- so I do have a feeling there is some underlying cause with me personally that needs to be addressed therapeutically. I was curious to see if any of these "symptoms" have applied to your husband as well? I have seen iboga induce anxiety in someone I was sitting for, who also had no history of panic/anxiety disorder, so I wonder if it, the iboga, just causes those feelings in certain people, or if it is pointing to something deeper needing to be addressed.

Of course, that much build up in the system over 3mos time... I can't imagine it wouldn't be taxing.

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Re: Micro Dosing and Anxiety
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2012, 01:28:41 PM »
HI mzlynnem,

no, it was not rally an anxiety attack, it was a flash of Iboga experience. It was as short as anxiety attack, but right after he cried a some, the same way he did just before he got hit with the iboga zone... so it was "iboga anxiety"...

But it was curious that after the full flood you had anxiety. We both experienced very calm mind...

I used to have panic attacks, long time ago, but Iboga full flood nor microdosing didn't aletr my mind at all. ( I doing it just along my husband, have no any other issue, for spiritual purpose. and my husband has boderline disorder).

What interest me if you had anxiety first week after the FFlood... or later on. Are you doing bosters and/or microdosing? Was the FF really strong? The stronger the better, half way floods may cause more problems then good.

take care
Jox

ps. his mother is also micordosing, and we haven't see any anxiety