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Drama and Forum Feuds
« on: September 01, 2013, 01:16:02 AM »
the fact that my comment was removed after criticizing  Kampum for his hypocrisy & calling him out for his ego based comments, I believe shows that he has no business Moderating anything on this forum.

 
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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2013, 08:02:26 PM »
I've gone through the process of deleting myself from here several times and come back because of scuffles like this.  I have absolutely no problems on the Kambo forum that I administer nor the Ayahuasca forum where I am a happy member.  But this forum seems to really bring out the controversies.  I'd be happy to leave for good so if any admin wishes to bring me down a level I'll say good bye to the forum and end my service here, really that way I could focus on the Kambo forum.  So that's fine.  I usually do edit and/or delete comments associated with me if they are going to spell drama, so if you were wondering why I did that.  And now it is open to others to decide on your wishes.  I do censor on the Kambo forum to prevent drama associated talk and otherwise off the key of healing material.  This forum has a different rule form, which I may have violated in that respect, if so please demote me.  It means little to me either way, I don't write here for my own sense of worth despite what has been implied by unsaid individual.  The Iboga community is filled with darkenss in a midst of light, so I grow weary more and more.  With a foundation in the Santo Daime I can no longer afford such immature talk as what occurs so often here and on Iboga FB communities. 

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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2013, 04:02:28 AM »
  The Iboga community is filled with darkenss in a midst of light, so I grow weary more and more.  With a foundation in the Santo Daime I can no longer afford such immature talk as what occurs so often here and on Iboga FB communities. 

Could not agree more Kampum...it has always been thus in the Western world ever since ibogaine appeared on the scene....it is not like anything else - as we all know - and it attracts a totally different and much more diverse demographic than an ayahuasca forum would for instance...lots of intense and addictive type personalities, etc. There will be headaches. I have lamented the sad sorry state of this loose 'community' since I first joined Mindvox years ago - I hate the bullshit betwixt 'providers' and all the hear-say and rumor mill nonsense...BUT - it is what it is and only we can make it better, if we wish to affect any changes at all we are the ones to do it.

What do you want, KP?

I have greatly appreciated your service here, and service it is and has been, we have had our own struggles, you and I - and [I believe] come through them with at least a modicum of better understanding of one another. I know you are busy elsewhere with your own projects, but if you want to be loosed from responsibility here I would have you stay on as a valued member - do I understand correctly that you are implying you would only stay on if you held a mod position, or did I misinterpret this?

I am interested to know your thoughts.

Whatever the case, we all realize nobody is going to be able to satisfy everyone all the time, heads will butt lines will cross and we will do the best we can as fallible humans.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2013, 04:08:51 AM by Calaquendi »
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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2013, 08:08:23 PM »
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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2013, 10:13:33 PM »
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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2013, 09:01:11 AM »
Since this dude has made it a personal quest to attempt to oust me from the seat of a moderator I figured it would be best to put it into the proper place as a suggestion for the forum he is making. 

It would be good to note that although unsaid individual speaks with authority he is quite new here...

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I know your buddy buddy with the higher ups here unsaid, and that you did PM me at one time and I likely didn't respond, regardless you have no inkling of respect from me. 


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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2013, 03:31:19 AM »
Kampum, chill out. No one is trying to "oust" you. This whole debate seems pointless. Your argument against him is that he doesn't like you. And that he's newer here.

Using the term "buddy buddy" is not conducive to any feelings of peace. You're just making things more confrontational. Can you please move on?

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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2013, 08:36:15 AM »
It's important to have the proper place for the topics at hand so I felt it needed to be moved to it's own place.  As well I feel that unsaid will keep bringing this up so here he can get it all out if he pleases.  I don't think he was felt heard.  Maybe I should have changed the thread title to "Kick Kampum out of mod" but since forum feuds are a part of these sorts of things, I just figured more of these issues could go here as well. 

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Your argument against him is that he doesn't like you. And that he's newer here.

Since I don't know anything about him what else do I have to go off of?  He's made it rather personal and knows more about me than I do about him from my posts.  He calls my posts and/or views harsh or confrontational as do others, so maybe you all can spill your guts on everything I do incorrectly here.  And I doubt I have the energy to mount any sort of come backs, so go on ahead folgies. 

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This whole debate seems pointless.

I call it therapy and don't mind going through the nitty gritty to get to the delicate innocence. 

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Kampum, chill out.

That doesn't make sense, maybe you confused me with some one else. 

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Using the term "buddy buddy" is not conducive to any feelings of peace. You're just making things more confrontational. Can you please move on?

I just think there are reasons why unsaid feels entitled to say that I have no seat as a mod.  Knowing who he's tight with on FB here and as well the city he shares with other mods (in the new world order capitol), I think he feels he can say such things with protection, which is likely.  A little back story is helpful to onlookers as well for him to be aware that I'm not naive to such things.  Who said I wanted to be on peaceful terms for all I know he is not a good person and will continue to be a thorn in my side.  In that case it would be better for us to resolve it in whatever manner appropriate rather than to beat around the bush with nicecities that have no real standing in life.  When someone takes a jab at me I wanna make sure they know I don't just take it nor do i ignore it.  It would be easier to ignore it but then what would be the lesson for me (or unsaid)?  Also I fundementally do not agree that it is always ok to be so polite on these forums and that many times one needs to be Ibogaesque in their conduct of written speech to get the point across.  So the Iboganess of my manner is the problem you all are having I think.   
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 08:52:43 AM by Kampum »

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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2013, 02:22:32 PM »
Fine, you're not confrontational.

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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2013, 05:30:09 PM »
Kampum I see my earlier (Deleted) comments have done nothing but fire you up. Perhaps I was to harsh but i stand by what i said. I have witnessed you shred people to pieces with a keyboard on this forum many times for asking the same question more than once, maybe looking for more info than what YOU have to offer or your point of view on given subject. Is it wrong to pursue more feedback than Kampum's on Eboka.info ?
NEVER !

 I write these words with no claim to any sort of authority or other silliness based on my time here or my experience with Ibo, both are very limited. I am a humble novice as far as Iboga goes. I respect it.

 I will drop this because its not the place or time & seems unhealthy for the Forum, IMO, but know Kampum when you decide to shred people for asking questions, others do take notice.
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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2013, 06:01:14 PM »
Kampum I see my earlier (Deleted) comments have done nothing but fire you up. Perhaps I was to harsh but i stand by what i said. I have witnessed you shred people to pieces with a keyboard on this forum many times for asking the same question more than once, maybe looking for more info than what YOU have to offer or your point of view on given subject. Is it wrong to pursue more feedback than Kampum's on Eboka.info ?
NEVER !

Thanks for bringing this up.  I can attest to the wannabe cybershaman assholism as I was guilty of the same kind of behavior, you can just search my post history and find out yourself.  ;) I don't believe I deleted anything, nor the mods...

I can see where he's gotten so irate at Eon and missjess, lack of patience and empathy I guess.  I thought Eon was homeless and living out of shelters, so for someone to deal with him with so much harshness is out of lack of 'empathy'.

You don't need to do an Iboga flood to have a 'life review', just do a forum search

On the Move and you can see that forum members that threaten to leave usually end up coming back.

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Irritability
Loss of short term memory to one extent or the other
Dark dreams
Strange thoughts
Depressive like feelings
Taking life too seriously
Short temper

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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2013, 08:06:14 PM »
skinny,
Can't say I'm glad to see you around you around.  Always presenting information in a way to utterly piss people off.  Still up to no good I see.  It would make sense that you support the efforts of others to jibber jabber as you are always full of mumbo jumbo nonsense yourself meant to send people into a tizzy. 

You took my quotes out of context and also left out that I haven't had Iboga for 4 months.  I am a properly functioning family man that offers help via mainly Kambo to many people, last time I heard from you were a male prostitute.   Is that good enough context for you? 

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Kampum I see my earlier (Deleted) comments have done nothing but fire you up.
Yes, note that when I deleted them and you got upset I told you I did it to prevent this from happening.  Now that you opened up pandora's box with your criticisms you want to consider this done and that it is harmful for the forum? 

This thread is in it's proper place and this issues of Drama and Forum Feuds will continue to occur so I suggest you purge out all the toxins you have in your cranium, or shall I dislodge them for you? 

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Fine, you're not confrontational.
Clearly I am confrontational.  Was I arguing otherwise?  How shall I prove it to you better?  Declare an all out war against any BS waste of time within myself.  I try to make use of these discussions by digging in as deep as possible rather than doing the much easier option of running away.  They will pop up over and over again if not dealt with thoroughly here and now. 

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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2013, 08:12:02 PM »
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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2013, 08:18:18 PM »
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I can attest to the wannabe cybershaman assholism

How may I properly represent my Kambo cred to you?  By saying that you and unsaid both have declared war on my credibility as a practitioner of warrior medicines.  To speak of me in this way is to smear the medicine of Kambo itself.  If you are asking for that sort of Karma dart pain than bring it on.  But just so you know I had nothing to do with it.  It was my totem doing the work for me.  Iboga and Ayahuasca play a much lesser role to me than the abilities of Kambo (Phyllomedusa Bicolor) to protect and enhance the spiritual immune system. 

I will say to you neophytes...
You don't know who you are messing with.   Do Kambo 45+ times full ceremonies in a span of 3 years, as well as many more times before Ayahuasca, then maybe you can speak as if you have any idea of who I am or what I represent.   

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Re: Drama and Forum Feuds
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2013, 08:20:12 PM »
Unsaid

Stop mumbling and say something worth listening to.