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Offline moyshekapoyre

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Successfully microdosed 50mg rootbark! Implications?
« on: July 06, 2011, 08:59:54 AM »
Well, I posted a few days ago about the maya iboga TA tincture and the claim of needing only 1mg of ibogaloids to feel effects.

Yesterday I tried putting about 50mg of ibogaworld rootbark (I still had 300mg left but never thought it would do anything)-- on my tongue and just moved it all around my mouth while doing affirmations. I did that until I could no longer really taste anything bitter, and then I washed it down with water. The result was that it kind of felt like something. I thought maybe it was just placebo, but then I tried going to sleep 6 hours later, and sleep was almost impossible. So perhaps it did really work. Today I will try again, this time in the morning so that I can sleep at night. Hopefully the effects build on each other each day as with regular dosing. I guess some or all of the alkaloids are simply far more bioavailable (20x perhaps) thru the membranes in the mouth than via digestion. I still wonder if this means that one could do a flood dose with 20x less material via tincture drops on the tongue (say, 80 drops?). If so, that would be a tremendous discovery!

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Re: Successfully microdosed 50mg rootbark! Implications?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 11:56:09 AM »
So yesterday I put some iboga bark on my toothpaste (same amount as before), and brushed my teeth and gums. I then swished it all around for 15 mins. while making breakfast, and then finally spit it out. Wow, I really felt it all day, including the respiratory depression which I guess I'd forgotten about. I just finished doing this again this morning.

According to maya, it seems it IS possible to flood with very little actual ibogaloids when using a tincture sublingually. In other words, 10mg of ibogaloids with this ROA can produce tracers and difficulty walking!! This sounds like a super discovery--imagine the cost savings! And no need to worry about vomiting screwing up your dosing.

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Re: Successfully microdosed 50mg rootbark! Implications?
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 10:07:39 PM »
Any more info on this?? Quite a bold statement, but if it turns out to have some validity it could be very very important.
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Re: Successfully microdosed 50mg rootbark! Implications?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 06:59:27 PM »
I sprinked some TA on my toothpaste this morning and brushed my teeth, gums and mouth with it. I then swished it around my mouth for 15 minutes. I experienced some numbness in my mouth. Throughout the day I had a minor glow. My experience did not come close to that of what moyshekapoyre described unfortunately. I will experiment again with just pure TA and hold it in my mouth for as long as possible before swallowing.

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Re: Successfully microdosed 50mg rootbark! Implications?
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 03:29:43 PM »
I have found this TA tincture very effective (and microdosing in general). Yes the doses are tiny, like homeopathic tiny, but I can definitely feel it. Part of it I think is that it is absorbed directly into your body and nervous system via the alcohol on your tongue. If used over time, it also builds up in your system. Sharp people have noticed something different about me when I'm on the TA drops alone, so I'm sure there is something going on.

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Re: Successfully microdosed 50mg rootbark! Implications?
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2011, 09:16:14 PM »
I can't imagine holding any iboga product in my mouth for longer than it takes to swallow, and it lingers forever without some sort of acidic drink to wash it down.  The stuff tastes awful times a million!  There are always iboga enemas!!  :P
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