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Offline pacstevens

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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2012, 07:45:59 AM »
I made a brew following JBG's recipe as well as I could for a first timer.  I grinded up the ingredients in a coffee grinder and cooked it for ~5 hours at 80 c, which is a little bit below a simmer.  While I cooked the brew at 80 c most of the time, I also used a setting on my induction boiler that got the liquid up to a simmer(a small amount of bubbles) for about 4 seconds, and then rests for 4 seconds.  In retrospect I wouldn't have used this setting.  At the end of the first boil I ended up with about 100 ml of liquid.

I strained the liquid through coffee filters, the straining left some sediment looking stuff which I discarded(not sure if this was the right move).  I added more liquid to the already used material and simmered at 80 c for ~5 more hours, which left me with ~300 ml of liquid.  I added the first brew I had saved to the 2nd brew and once again strained the liquid through coffee filters.  I ended up with a clear greenish liquid.  I put this in the fridge for the night.

The next day I simmered the combined mixture for about 2 hours, leaving me with ~250 ml of liquid.  I've never tried any psychedelics at all, so I wanted to start with a small dose.  I drank ~22-23 ml and waited about an hour and a half.  I didn't get any affect from that dose with the 1 exception being my vision felt slightly fuzzy, and I felt very slightly disoriented.  I decided to drink another 20ml, but it had no effect.

I'll try taking maybe 50 ml tomorrow and see what happens as it's quite common to not have any effect your first time with ayahuasca.

With all that said I have some questions:

1)  How much liquid do you end up with after your 6 hours of simmering?
2)  What should I use to strain the brew?
3)  Should I discard the sentiment thats left behind after the straining or add it back into the pot?
4)  Is a true simmer necessary?  I'm cooking at slightly below a simmer due to the restraints of my induction cooker.
5)  Do you see any mistakes in my cooking process?

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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2012, 03:20:40 PM »

Hi Folks,

OK what are Lichens,  what do they look like, how would I know if they were present specially if it was powdered?  I mean you are not suppose to ignore it but go to a Dr and be treated.  Has anyone here been exposed to it??

Best,

  Roy


Haha, I just realized something man. You are talking about something completely different in this post.
The Lichen you heard about being on the bark is the lichens I was talking about in my posts.
The lichen you are talking about in this post, about being treated for it, you are referring to is "Lichen Planus" which is an Oral and Vaginal rash. So it has nothing to do with this situation. ;) haha. because despite the name, they aren't caused by each other, and have NOTHING to do with each other.

So if you get bark with Lichens on it, I assure you, you wont get Lichen Planus, and I assure you Lichen Planus wont be on bark. ;)

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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2012, 09:31:34 AM »

Hi Insom,

Well that sure is good to know, oh yeah.  Scared the hell out of me there.  Anyway what do the Lichens that do not affect those....those.... those parts of the body that you don't like messing with so to speak, so then what do they do to ya that's bad.  I mean do they make ya sick or what?

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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2012, 12:59:12 PM »
The lichens on bark?

Not really sure if they will harm you, Lichens are just very little studied, and there is nearly no Bioassay reports on them, as they dont really look very tasty, so no one really knows their edibilty, and toxicity.

Think of it like mushrooms. Considering they are a fungi. You wouldnt want to eat a random mushroom? because it could be potentially poisonous.. But you never know.
As far as I know there are maybe 5-6 known edible lichens. And a couple known to be toxic.  And all the thousands upon thousands of others, no one has any clue.

So like I said, you wont really have a problem if they are on the bark, just scrape them off if they are present, and the problems solved.

I think just me inquiring about this may have caused a bit more scare than needed. 
Dont worry.
Plus I think it was just a random coincidence that, the person who reviewed that source, happened to have Lichens on their bark. I am sure it wasnt a substantial amount, probably just a coincidence he got that part.  Its highly unlikely they have lichens on all their bark, so I think youll be safe.

If you do get them, shave them off the bark and send em to me. ;) Ill put them under the microscope and identify them to species! :P

Youll be good. Dont assume nothing on that source, I am sure they didnt mean to send lichenized bark, and like I said its unlikely to happen again.

Peace and Love.
(Hope you learned something about these wonderful mysterious creatures, they are still very interesting, despite being ignored by everyone.)

Take Care.

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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2012, 08:15:47 AM »

Hi Insom,

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I think just me inquiring about this may have caused a bit more scare than needed. 

Well that's a relief, I'm gonna write to someone in the government and have a public service announce made on TV and maybe have them make a disclaimer or something, definitely have them change the spelling. 

About the mushrooms - A while back I goggled   5 hikers eat poison mushrooms     and it was about some hikers, some who had a mushroom id book, and they ate poison ones and oh man what a painful way to go.  Ya eat them in the day and go to the hospital that night and then ya get better then ya die in a week or so.  Your liver enzymes like the alts and that go to 40 or 50 times the norm - sick to the max.  It destroys several of your internal organs, liver for one and maybe kidneys too - it is gruesome.  I would never trust my life to me not making a mistake for I know nothing about which ones are poisonous; I just know which ones I like a whole lot.

Wow you really like microscopy, I liked it too.  A hair is as large as tree in the forest and a blue ink dot on a piece of paper looks like a hockey rink.  Hmmm, now which is it??  It is a very large area like a hockey rink or is it a tiny dot??  Guess if you ask a virus they would say it is a big city and a person would say a dot on a piece of paper.  Ok, enough mental nonsense for the day.

Best,

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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2012, 02:22:45 PM »
Yeah you are referring to the destroying angles and the death cap. Some species from the amanita genus. Amanita phalloids, Amanita bisporgia, and others.
They cause upset stomach a couple days after ingestion, then extreme pain, you wind up in the hospital getting constant dialysis, then ull start feeling better as if a miracle, then a couple days later you will start seizing, then will be in need of a liver transplant, which will be a waste because you will go into a coma, your organs will shut down one by one, get brain damage and soon be pronouced dead..
They can look like a couple other edible amanitas to the untrained eye, but when they are young in the button stage they look like common edible puffballs.
The bad thing is they taste really good supposedly..
And it can take two weeks or more to even feel any bad effects..

But sorry for getting so side tracked guys..
Just thought it's was some info that may help, since it was brought up.

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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2012, 09:15:19 AM »
Hello Everyone, It is real nice to be here. I have 28 grams of Acacia confusa "Rainbow Tree" Hawaiian Root Bark and 114 grams of  Banisteriopsis caapi "Cielo"  if following your TEK, how would the dosing go? I have used Rue many of times, but since I HAVE THE caapi, I wanted to make a brew this way. This would be my first time using either. I am familiar with MHRB.

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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2013, 01:02:45 PM »
hello Rootpane

i, too, would like to hear the amount needed if using caapi.

as you boys may or may not know, syrian rue is toxic to to women.

so, johnny be good, your help here with caapi as an alternative, please

thank you

gloria deo
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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2013, 03:41:16 PM »
hello Rootpane

i, too, would like to hear the amount needed if using caapi.

as you boys may or may not know, syrian rue is toxic to to women.

so, johnny be good, your help here with caapi as an alternative, please

thank you

gloria deo


1.
there are two types of acacia that i have worked with: root bark and tree bark
my own personal experience is
the root bark is  6 gm / person
the tree bark is 15 gm / person
(some claim there is no differance
very hard to get the real root bark these days)

2.
using caapi start w/ 50 gm / person up to 100 gm / person
using muricata start with 25 gm / person up to 50 gm / person

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i use 250 mg vitamin C per person

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most times i have found 3 rounds of 4 - 6 hours to be more effeciant then two washes

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please be aware that acacia seems to have more of a kick (or some might say more chaotic) than it south american leafy relatives

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i never bother to strain and filter...i just pour off, wait till it cools, pour off again

i am working on some very incredible admixture recipes with some very healing herbs....
more to come soon
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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2013, 06:19:12 PM »
 :D
thank you JBG

gloria deo x
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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2013, 06:56:07 PM »
I thought you didn't like light gloriadeo?  Acacia Confusa is light.  Sure I never understood your approach on that but whatevah. 

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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2013, 02:45:21 AM »
acacia confusa is more like a strobe  :o
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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2013, 07:03:31 PM »
Spot on.  Consider that catch phrase swiped.

In the Strobe!!!

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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2013, 02:44:36 PM »
ha KP!
love the light - no problem with it at all.  :) i just dont like being bullied into my boring brain. .
. .  have just experienced the gracious and obliging Lady Confusa for the first time.
stunning!
my first drink i commanded her.  my second i gave myself to her.  in both situations she graciously delivered - and then some. . ! ha ha!
at no point was i overwhelmed by her beauty and power and sheer artistry.  the main reason i dislike the other Ladies of the Showtime is that i have to fight to stay in my body.  this was not so with Gracious Queen Confusa.  my body was melting all the while in her delicious golden embrace.  we were as one. . the Showtime was just part of the takeover   :D
i shant ever use anything else now.
i first heard about her 2 or 3 years ago and ever since then have been waiting to meet her.
i used brazilian caupuri vine in the mix.
after the first purge it was as if a weight was lifted - and i soared.

i am left purified and calm

Confusa does seem, to me, to be psychically purer than the Amazonian stuff.











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Re: Acacia Confusa Recipe
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2013, 10:19:11 PM »
Anyone know who's selling the actual rootbark?  A couple I see are phytoextratum and hiddenbotanicals... can anyone comment on the legitimacy of these?